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With this Putinesque move of Saudi Arabia plays hardball and sells in Yuan it is insta game over for the petrodollar (www.dailymail.co.uk)
posted 3 years ago by RandomAnon78 3 years ago by RandomAnon78 +8 / -3
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– deleted 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1
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– cxivv 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

It's not that the money will come flowing back it's that the only people using the USD will be American citizens who will have to bare all the inflation them selves instead of the billions that used to help.

Wouldn't surprise me canada and mexico will sign an agreement to switch over to the USD

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– KiloRomeo 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's the beginning of the end yes but Yuan does not have nearly enough notes in circulation yet and printing as many would run the economy. It will take some time but these types of movements signal the next phase.

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– Sinhasu 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

How many notes usd has, compared to the debt, I mean %.

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– KiloRomeo 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I think 1.6-1.8? Is out there have to check.

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– Sinhasu 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Hmmm that's not too bad. I never checked but lived in impression it's something below 1%. I mean, I'm trying to figure how much Russians and Chinese would have to have to mess with dollar. They are not far tho. I think they are no1. and no2. in gold reserves. That would alow them to have extra notes.

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– KiloRomeo 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yes they could be self sustaining. Could they replace the petro dollar? Not yet though over time they could achieve this using a commodities, labor, yuan triangle trade

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– cxivv 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

Notes? it's digital, they just add a zero. In exchange for that digital money China will sell them stuff since China is the producer of everything.

And for that there won't be any dollars involved, this is already so for a bunch of nations even European nations have wallets in Yuan so they don't have to negotiate constantly when money needs to exchange hands.

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– KiloRomeo 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They can't just add a zero though. I'm not talking about a technical difficulty but rather a market force. If they just print 100x ask it will do is create inflation for their currency.

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– cxivv 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

That's simply what fractional banking is. add derivatives and you have worthless money and a fake economy like we have today.

it works until something important like food runs out

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– KiloRomeo 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Yes but they don't have the same denominator to support the numerator....

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– RandomAnon78 [S] 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

If Saudi Arabia....

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– Ep0ch 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

At this point it stimulates the Russian economy far more than it immediately damages the West. The long game is very conflicted. How does each rebound.

Immediate run off is little enforcement towards a deepening rift of who listens to any sanctions. The West hopes to change technology, energy specifically, at the costs of almost everybody else paying far more.

How does any geopolitics realign. It is going to become messy ahead. I cannot think of many scenarios where wider conflict doesn't result. Or where any realignment doesn't spiral much worse affecting far more than the immediate warfare.

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