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Wait, the media told me the brave Ukrainians were winning (the ghost of Kiev could not be reached for comment) (rumble.com)
posted 3 years ago by raskolnikov88 3 years ago by raskolnikov88 +7 / -0
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– Poiuytrew 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

You know every war has a ghost of kiev right?

Pointing out that feel good story for women and children is wartime propaganda is about as intellectual as telling kids in daycare that santa isn't real.

No one but the banks win wars, innocent people are always the losers.

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– Ep0ch 4 points 3 years ago +5 / -1

Worse in this war. Much worse. Ukraine had time to make terms. There was time to reach agreements prior to conflict. Weeks, Months, even a Year. There was also time for any cities to surrender, days, prior to being bombarded.

Instead they're under martial law. They're conscripted. The military are using shields.

At which point couldn't a truce, and terms prevented conflict?

Why are we praising Ukraine for causing the price of energy to skyrocket? Why are we praising Ukraine for anything. I might understand condemning Russia. But I do not understand needless bullshit. Frankly I couldn't give any other shit about foreign wars until they affect me. That blame is on Ukraine. They did this. Of course they're just a prop. Piggy in the middle. But at this point. I couldn't care less.

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– Poiuytrew 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

You've been here too long to be picking sides. Open your eyes.

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– Ep0ch 2 points 3 years ago +4 / -2

I Don't pick sides. But Ukraine aren't my side. I don't want to hear about them. My nation isn't in Europe, they're not in Nato. Why the fuck do I care. Why are we giving them shit. Sure some aid, here's a gun. Why are we taking in their Refugees? But Russia are sanctioned. They attack outside of Ukraine then I care. We all do it's WW3. So why are they provoking it?

Obviously they're a buffer to bog down and exhaust Russia. Hell maybe Russia needed this war, too. Fuck if I care. Possibly even get at and sanction China. Nato needed Russia more. It is back in full business. They're an agenda to force even more expensive renewable energy. Possibly even cause a much bigger collapse where it might as well be hot war. At this rate. But who gives a shit? Now people do, because the inflation hurts. At what point am I happy about them? At what point do I want to watch them?

I don't. Don't know why people aren't protesting outside their Embassies. Fuck Ukraine. Fuck Russia.

As far as the topic clip. I am not commenting about it. I am specifically questioning why the hell should I care about Ukraine. It is the only thing on the News. And I don't know why I should. There is literally no argument in the World that could convince me too? Except aid. But it is ironic.

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– Skyrison 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

yes. they are provoking russia. BIG TIME. they dont want it to de-esculate. they want to start wwIII to distract from the huge fuck ups and crash coming. they will then have something to blame it all on. that way, they dont have to point to anything else. people will just buy it when the politicians and leaders say "it wasnt ourrr faultt it was WAR. see?!"

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– Ep0ch -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

But WW3 isn't contained. It is a nuclear exchange. Nobody sane wants that. They cannot reach Russian launchers without destroying the planet, Arctic, and neither can Russia without destroying the planet. Debatable if they care. They could wait it out for 1000 years in bunkers. Russia would still have all that land. While whoops somebody sets off a supervolcano or causes the hell knows.

But this was formulated. Russia took the bait. They must've known what it would cause. Therefore it is complict. Meaning no nuclear exchange. Everybody is holding off. Hence the propaganda reactors are in overdrive, it's a diversion. Possibly to the collapse and shortages caused. The news isn't documenting anything else when it has got its hand up Ukraine's asshole. Perhaps they all get a slice. Gains away from each other's lines and the races and competition caused. Maybe it still can escalate into a hot war, there is still growing uncertainty, often from any proxies fooled, and as shortages and rivalry set in, especially as it unfolds more. But this has been carved already. It has provoked something worse. It has provoked a World of dystopia. Where they'll just fuck you into buying bullshit regardless.

Or yea fire the nukes? See, no. Not yet in any event. Maybe a proxy is still dumb enough. Doubtful. It profits by fucking them and being a pariah to all the other rogues, and everybody else who doesn't want Google electricity. Or please just reset it.

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– Skyrison 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

"russia took the bait"

i keep hearing this. and im not sure where you get that from. the left AND right leaning sites are all falling for this shit. also, these sanctions and all this shit are going to comeback to bite us HARD CORE in the asshole, without lube. not even a little. we're fucked man. the downfall of the u.s. has already been happening because of greed, arrogance, useless spending, money laundering operations, insider trading, and hyper corporatism. couple that with wokeism and insane ideology? it's over.....

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– Ep0ch 0 points 3 years ago +1 / -1

No Ukraine was always that trap. It was formulated to be exactly what it is. Yes the West is as fucked by it. In fact more so. Who is listening to them today. It either goes hot or goes cold. Cold is obviously favoured in a reset. It means technology, and the dystopia they want to rule by. Nobody wants hot. Hot could easily destroy the planet. Because nukes are real or why the hell have we not fought a hot war yet.

Any moron could've predicted it. I have been saying for about a decade. It would cause this. My family got so tired of it, my friends got tired of it. Here we are.

The only question is does it go hot. Yes it was formulated. They gave them guns now they don't surrender. If they didn't give them guns there wouldn't be the refugees. These hypocritical nations pride themself on shoving their hands up everybody's asshole while not giving a shit about their citizens. They can pay for it. Frankly I am disgusted by it. Without the guns they'd surrender. They aren't Europe or Nato instead they're just another piggy in the middle.

It was sliced. But what are the terms?

Hell they even had the Intel that Russia would move for a while. Since Trump. What did they do? They armed it more.

Curiously what now. Generally if one takes something what does the other want? No it ain't sanctions, sanctions were inevitable. Does peace come from the armed little squealers? Please just shut that news up. It will squeal until the cows go home. But In WW2 was there the daily tirade of bullshit. Or did they get on with it. At what point does anybody else care. No credibility.

Honestly a hot war would be better than the 1000 cuts. But it's uncontrolled, it's not cold.

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