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Why Christians and Q followers dovetail so nicely together.
posted 4 years ago by ShillSlayerLives 4 years ago by ShillSlayerLives +5 / -5

The overlap is easy to spot. They are both faith based groups. Faith is believing something in lieu of evidence.

Which is part of the reason why the Q crowd doesn't always mesh well here. Evidence is usually requisite at this .win. "Trust" in a plan is hard to come by.

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– Mark4-40 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The Bible is the authority for contextual definitions of certain words for Christians. I gave the verbatim definition of faith from the Bible for your collective reference. If one is going to disparage various groups via a comparison, one would do better to have more accurate perspectives of the respective groups to form a more accurate troll. Those are funnier when they're closer to the truth.

it doesn't work with scientists at all

I'll let you in on a little secret. I've been a scientist for decades, and it is very much run on faith. Hypotheses are faith driven until disproven by experimental data to the contrary. I think (or believe or "hypothesize") the world works like xyz based on my observations of abc. I can test it any number of methods, but until the data comes in to disprove my belief, the hypothesis still stands. Or I still believe what I believe about reality based on my observations of such. Spiritual faith is no different. The Bible instructs it's adherents to test circumstances to determine whether they are good or evil, and says faith will be tested daily, and generate observable data to demonstrate whether ones faith "hypothesis" is correct or not.

I still hold that spiritual faith and scientific faith are quite similar.

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– Turtlew0rk 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The Bible is the authority for contextual definitions of certain words for Christians.

Not disputing this.

Hypotheses are faith driven.

Correct(ish). This is a part of the scientific process I mentioned earlier. A hypothesis is not science but a possible explanation that requires further testing to prove and even once proven is only valid until potentially disproven by new evidence or knowledge unavailable at that time. A hypothesis alone is not proven science and I have never heard an actual scientist make a claim like that.

and says faith will be tested daily

YES! And are you supposed to adjust your faith when faced with new data previously unavailable? Of course not right? Nor do I believe you should necessarily. I am not saying faith is a bad thing or that anything you say is incorrect and that I have any more knowledge than you about the divine. We are finite beings and cannot understand the infinite as a matter of fact, but of faith only. Which even the bible backs up I believe. (not a scholar myself) .

I am also not claiming that science is the ultimate truth or authority about anything and isn't without flaws itself. Most of science is theory anyhow. Gravity is only a theory. Science cannot explain it, but simple observation can prove its existence despite our incomplete understanding.

My issue is with a bad comparison. Not pro-science or anti-faith.

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