Bear with me, this post has potential to be kinda long.
Everybody in my household got Covid (I didn't get tested, but I'm sure I got it too). I put up with the symptoms for a week and a half until they became unbearable: coughing, fever, hot flashes, major headaches, feeling like I was drowning because of low oxygen (down to 82 on the oximeter), vomiting, can't sleep, can't eat, hacking up a small amount of blood. My wife and I decided that it was time to get some medical help yesterday (Halloween Sunday). I called urgent care, and they wouldn't take us, told us to go to the ER. Great, big copay incoming.
We get to the hospital, Covid patients have to go through a different entrance. I will say that while they seemed to be staffed well enough and not OMG OVERWHELMED like the media would like us to believe, in the 45 minutes I waited to be brought back, the ratio was 1 to 1 for Covid and for regular ER visitors, so maybe there is some truth to the stress on the healthcare system.
I got my room, told the check in nurse, the floor nurse, and the ER doctor my symptoms. The ER doctor was clearly pissed when I told him I wasn't vaccinated and was just generally an ass during the 5 minutes he saw me. He suggested monoclonal antibody via IV, said it was experimental and not FDA approved, I asked about side effects and he said basically none. I hadn't heard of this treatment, but how it was described is that it helps protect cells that aren't infected from getting infected and stop Covid from spreading further.
Long story short, I did the monoclonal antibody IV. 6 hours after being in the hospital, freezing because they only gave me one tiny ass blanket, uncomfortable because some dickhead unplugged the bed with it like halfway inclined, they checked on me probably 3 times in those 6 hours. I had to wait an hour after asking to get some tylenol. The next shift came on near the end and the nurse actually gave a fuck and took care of me after that. BUT here's the thing, I didn't feel any better. After 6 hours in the hospital with symptoms that I feel would be pretty easy to control, I still felt just as bad as when I came in. They all told me that there's no other treatments that they can do except rest and let it pass "because Covid."
So they're basically saying a hospital in a major city in the US (one of the cities with highly rated healthcare systems at that) can't treat a headache? You know, a headache that is probably caused by low oxygen. They can't give me some pills to help with nausea and mucus thinners? IV fluids? What a fucking joke the whole thing was. Then they give me a $2000 invoice (which is fucking wrong anyway, I know my ER copay is only $200, but we all know hospital billing is a scam). I feel like they're doing this shit on purpose and refusing to do anything to help make it pass faster or help with symptoms.
Anyway, my mom that lives with us got Covid at the same time as us. She got the vaccine and was better in 2 days, even though she's being an asshole and sandbagging so she doesn't have to do anything around the house. This has been the only time I have considered getting the clot shot, because if I never have to be this sick again I will be very happy. The fact that she had very mild symptoms and was done in 2 days gave me first hand insight that the shot might actually do something. And inb4 "glowie post" "shill" "larp" etc, check my post history, I've been against the shot since this shit began.
You have antibodies more to ask the antigens not just the spikes. Why wish the well documented side effects if you possess immunity?
I didn't get to ask the doctor about it before they released me. So after the monoclonal antibodies, does it basically provide the same resistance to contracting it in the future? Will it make the symptoms less severe?
I haven't had the energy to research until just now, and even that's proving to be short lived.
once infected the body develops antibodies to the antigens found in a virus. Unrelated to monoclonal
Thanks man, makes sense.
You have no idea how good American healthcare is. Yeah its a damn shame(criminal really) its been privatized and monopolized and turned into the behemoth that its become.
But compared to a socialist country like Canada, it just doesnt even compare. As a appalachian, I swore that I would never get medical insurance, especially as someone who has been lucky enough to be healthy and never needed a doctor most of my life. But after my experience here I dont have any problem paying for medical insurance if it guarantees that I can use the system when I need it.
I get poisoned with refrigerant over a 5 month period, no one would help me. I was not deemed "important" enough for a holter, so I spent 7 months in a hyper tensive urgency->crisis, the effects that I am still dealing with years after the fact. It was absolutely pathetic. And in the end I can get over being poisoned. I can even get over being denied medical care. But I have a hard time grasping that these Doctors/WCB/Lawyers can just lie ( say things like refrigerant cant cause irregular heartbeat or that I didnt have it. Or that I didnt like the effects of medication I was never given, not taking blood pressure medication, claiming I said I was having "depressive" episodes ). Canada seems more Communist than Socialist. I really wonder if it was fate, that I was supposed to see that America is indeed the last free republic on this planet and we, it's citizens are failing it. Hard.
Also fuckthatt, if your experience proves anything. It's proving marek's disease is real.
Your mom exposed you to a vaccine induced variant. I am honestly shocked its working so fast. But I had to assume that the more people they get vaccinated, the faster variants will be created.
My thinking is you would rather be living with a vaccinated individual as they can slowly introduce you to variants and build your immunity. If your someone who is living a isolated life, and your immune system is not being challenged, its going to get real rough in a few more years I imagine.
I understand how you feel op, but for me it's like the flu. I get the flu maybe once a decade and the last time I did I felt like I was suffocating. I kept thinking why didnt I get the shot. But after living through a week of that misery I have to imagine my immune system has been strengthened. I suspect if I was getting the flu shot that I would be cheating my immune system and getting sick more often. Who knows though. I am not a Doctor, or a Scientist.
Regardless, I wont get this shot because of the cardiac symptoms are just to similar to hydrocarbon poisoning and I cant risk putting myself through that again. Not when I cant get proper medical care like bloodwork or a ekg/stress test. Just a little bit of cardiac sensitization or heart inflammation, no biggie if you have access to proper medical resources, if you dont. well tough luck.
I have yet to get a shot, and I dont care if I end up homeless. I refuse to budge on this issue. If I get covid and the universe decides to injure me or kill me, then so be it, I dont fear what comes after death.
I will be damned if I am going to be injured by the hand of rich entitled fucks who do not give a shit about me again.
Covid is fake you had the flu… there is zero point to go to the hospital you should have just stayed home and either dealt with it or got some ivermectin…
I wish I could've stayed home but man if you were feeling the way I was yesterday, you would've done anything to feel better too... And honestly if I knew they weren't going to do dick about it, I probably would've just faked a kidney stone and gone to urgent care anyway, at least I would've gotten a morphine nap. I took Ivermectin for 3 days prior (Thur, Fri, Sat) and it didn't do anything for me.
Yeah i had it its just the flu. I milked a few days off of work. No big deal
I am curious about your mom and waning effectiveness of vaccines over time. How long was it from the time your mom got the second shot to when she got Covid?
She got the second shot in March. Tested positive last week, so 7 months. She's in decent health, early 60s, no cancer or anything like that.
Thanks man. I thought as much. I was in the same boat as far as being skeptical that Covid actually existed beyond just being a bad flu, but this experience has been eye opening. The last week and a half has sucked but I'm really hoping I'm at the tail end of it now. The whole hospital experience this time has also been eye opening, I just wish they would've tried harder to do SOMETHING to make me feel even a smidge better right away, but it really felt like they were purposely refusing to. I've only ever had to go to the ER for kidney stones before, and my experience those times, I'm usually brought back immediately, given an IV immediately and pumped full of morphine and the nurses have always been super attentive. Thanks for the info, I was thinking now between the monoclonal antibodies and already being infected and recovering that it may be moot to get any shots, just wasn't sure.