The story of influenza disappearing is an interesting result of covid mitigation. Being that influenza is a larger virus than covid, it main mode of transmission is in droplets from sneezing, coughing and other fomites. Those fomites then infect others generally by hand to face, hand to mucus membrane contact. It's not surprising that the flu would all but disappear in a world where there is social distancing, routine hand sanitation and surfaces being wiped down on a regular basis.
What is concerning is the almost complete disappearance of deaths from ailments that don't just disappear when washing hands frequently: heart attacks, stroke, cancer, etc.
B E C A U S E M O R E P E O P L E A R E B E I N G M O R E C A R E F U L W A S H I N G T H E I R H A N D S A N D S U R F A C E S , D I S T A N C I N G W E A R I N G M A S K S T H A N B E F O R E.
Can't tell if serious. Hospitals have always been one of the most stringent as far as cleanliness, masks, PPE etc, yet we see significant nosocomial transmission of covid as well as other diseases like staph.
It may help, but not enough to wipe out flu in the wild.
I can't answer your question based solely on the graph. However, the spread of flu has been well understood for several decades, so I'm not sure why you're taking issue with my statement about fomites, masks, hand & surface sanitation. These are all known to be effective combating the flu.
I do agree that there is lots of weeeeeeiiiiird and suspicious circumstances surrounding covid. And I also believe that deaths are being blamed on covid that should not be blamed on covid.
All I'm saying is I don't find it surprising that flu has disappeared while also having stated that I do find it weird that other illnesses that are not effectively treated wearing mask, washing hands and surfaces have also disappeared.
Masks were never a magic bullet, but as a cronic nail biter & face scratcher I can tell you that they greatly limit those activities just by creating a physical barrier to dirty fingers entering mouths.
You people beating me up for not being surprised that the flu is greatly attenuated using techniques that have been known for decades to be affective at preventing the spread of the flu which is mostly transmitted via fomites and dirty fingers touching mucus membranes seem to be fixated on magic bullet solution or failures, but when taken as a whole it would appear that the techniques of washing hands, surfaces, wearing masks and distancing that we've been told for decades are effective at preventing transmission of the flu are actually effective at preventing transmission of the flu. And then you're getting all up in my ass like I'm a pro-mask-covid npc while telling me I'm wrong about a virus that is many times more infectious than the flu to what I'm saying about the flu. Please do me a favor and piss off with your infantile bullshit of absolutes.a
Soooo why haven’t they been telling us wear masks for decades now during flu season? They just let all those ppl die?
What about the studies done through out the 2000s on hospital staff, mask wearing and whether or not it helped slow the spread of flu that shows it has a negligible effect?
I could see the flu going down because ppl didn’t go visit other ppl but it should still spreading in some places. I could see a reduction in flu cases but not a 98% reduction.
Where I live, tons of ppl should’ve still gotten the flu last year Bc probably only half the ppl even wore masks. And 25 percent of the other half wore them incorrectly. Kids wore masks as school but not at lunch or snack.
I do think some of it is people didn’t go to the doctor like the usually would. I’ve probably had the flu a few times and not KNOWN it was the flu Bc I didn’t go get tested. Why would I? There isn’t really a treatment…but a lot of people used to run to the doctor for everything but now only go if it’s necessary. Like it should be.
It's simple. Covid is the flu. You can find the reports of several doctors who sequenced 1500 positive corona tests. They were all influenza.
Flu deaths counts are also fake. They are not diagnosed but are estimates.
Here's some methods
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19797736/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19453440/
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0080481
Source? I'd like to share this
The story of influenza disappearing is an interesting result of covid mitigation. Being that influenza is a larger virus than covid, it main mode of transmission is in droplets from sneezing, coughing and other fomites. Those fomites then infect others generally by hand to face, hand to mucus membrane contact. It's not surprising that the flu would all but disappear in a world where there is social distancing, routine hand sanitation and surfaces being wiped down on a regular basis.
What is concerning is the almost complete disappearance of deaths from ailments that don't just disappear when washing hands frequently: heart attacks, stroke, cancer, etc.
We've been told the reason covid hasn't gone away with masking is people aren't following the mask mandates. So which is it?
B E C A U S E M O R E P E O P L E A R E B E I N G M O R E C A R E F U L W A S H I N G T H E I R H A N D S A N D S U R F A C E S , D I S T A N C I N G W E A R I N G M A S K S T H A N B E F O R E.
Can't tell if serious. Hospitals have always been one of the most stringent as far as cleanliness, masks, PPE etc, yet we see significant nosocomial transmission of covid as well as other diseases like staph.
It may help, but not enough to wipe out flu in the wild.
I can't answer your question based solely on the graph. However, the spread of flu has been well understood for several decades, so I'm not sure why you're taking issue with my statement about fomites, masks, hand & surface sanitation. These are all known to be effective combating the flu.
I do agree that there is lots of weeeeeeiiiiird and suspicious circumstances surrounding covid. And I also believe that deaths are being blamed on covid that should not be blamed on covid.
All I'm saying is I don't find it surprising that flu has disappeared while also having stated that I do find it weird that other illnesses that are not effectively treated wearing mask, washing hands and surfaces have also disappeared.
Masks were never a magic bullet, but as a cronic nail biter & face scratcher I can tell you that they greatly limit those activities just by creating a physical barrier to dirty fingers entering mouths.
You people beating me up for not being surprised that the flu is greatly attenuated using techniques that have been known for decades to be affective at preventing the spread of the flu which is mostly transmitted via fomites and dirty fingers touching mucus membranes seem to be fixated on magic bullet solution or failures, but when taken as a whole it would appear that the techniques of washing hands, surfaces, wearing masks and distancing that we've been told for decades are effective at preventing transmission of the flu are actually effective at preventing transmission of the flu. And then you're getting all up in my ass like I'm a pro-mask-covid npc while telling me I'm wrong about a virus that is many times more infectious than the flu to what I'm saying about the flu. Please do me a favor and piss off with your infantile bullshit of absolutes.a
Soooo why haven’t they been telling us wear masks for decades now during flu season? They just let all those ppl die?
What about the studies done through out the 2000s on hospital staff, mask wearing and whether or not it helped slow the spread of flu that shows it has a negligible effect?
I could see the flu going down because ppl didn’t go visit other ppl but it should still spreading in some places. I could see a reduction in flu cases but not a 98% reduction.
Where I live, tons of ppl should’ve still gotten the flu last year Bc probably only half the ppl even wore masks. And 25 percent of the other half wore them incorrectly. Kids wore masks as school but not at lunch or snack.
I do think some of it is people didn’t go to the doctor like the usually would. I’ve probably had the flu a few times and not KNOWN it was the flu Bc I didn’t go get tested. Why would I? There isn’t really a treatment…but a lot of people used to run to the doctor for everything but now only go if it’s necessary. Like it should be.
https://medicalxpress.com/news/2019-10-surgical-masks-flu.html
There has been discussion about just that.
That’s the study I was talking about, thanks
The one wear it says there no real benefit in wearing masks for flu. So how did the masks stop the flu?