I am yet to hear an argument as to how election audits are bad. Best case scenario (depending on where you sit), it confirms the election was the most fair, transparent and legitimate in history. Biden and co. can crow about it and everyone get's on with their lives. Worst case, it uncovers serious fraud and cheating within the election. Biden is removed and the rightful winner is put back in place.
To me, it seems that the only people that are anti audit are those that know or think something bad might come to light that will impact the outcome.
Everyone wants the truth. What is the truth. The truth is there is a sworn in president. If this changes, there isn't the former president. The chain of command is the president, then the vice president, then the house speaker. If the election was invalid, it means a new election except hypothetically you are without an acting president. In which case the senate is the ruling power until there is a lawful president. Otherwise it is a military coup. But it isn't the former president. He isn't in office. He wasn't sworn in as acting president. He has a claim, sure, it is invalid. Doesn't validating it mean changing the constitution. Wouldn't it have to create a new ammendment? Who has that power when there is an acting president, vetoing?
What is that truth? Isn't it easier to obscure. Because America already has a president.
Who knows how this turns out, we all are speculating. My guess no where else. Shamefully. What's done is done and cannot be undone. By undoing things break burn and crumble.
Who knows man. As you say, we're just speculating. It's unchartered territory right? I don't know the ins and outs of election law but it's pretty fucked if you can cheat your way to POTUS and be like "oh well, damage is done. I'm in charge now".
It is because of the wrong tech we have this problem. The constitution hasn't quite adapted to it. The fact an election can be hacked or even cheated. The way voters aren't verified and were mass mailed. Untrusted individuals counting votes. It is horrifying there are people counting votes who barely even speak English. It can become a recipe for disaster and foul play.
Tech needs to adapt. Any ballots should have been personalized and verified by the named individual with a unique QR code to their social security numbers verifying by a standing vote. Eliminating fraud. Too much tech an election becomes hacked. As in it casts votes for people who simply didn't and don't vote. Look at the choices. I think this election stunk. No way did it happen like that. But why on earth did it not have the same voting as per usual. COVID or not.
We are speculating but there is no law or amendment on if the wrong president has been sworn in. There is only impeachment following the chain of command. For a president to be reinstated it is technically impossible, it requires a brand new law or legislation. Why would the current admin submit if they can veto. Of course they would lose public opinion but look at public opinion anyway right now, if they weren't even elected.
The only thing America will do is keep the chain of command logically voting next time. It could be worse for the greater good. Feelings aside. There is more to lose than the right thing. The right thing didn't happen to begin with. Now there's only the wrong thing.
Sure if America wants to trigger a collapse where trillions are wiped out overnight and anarchy ensues becoming a global reaction. It might do that thing, otherwise this logically isn't going anywhere else any time soon
I am yet to hear an argument as to how election audits are bad. Best case scenario (depending on where you sit), it confirms the election was the most fair, transparent and legitimate in history. Biden and co. can crow about it and everyone get's on with their lives. Worst case, it uncovers serious fraud and cheating within the election. Biden is removed and the rightful winner is put back in place.
To me, it seems that the only people that are anti audit are those that know or think something bad might come to light that will impact the outcome.
Everyone wants the truth. What is the truth. The truth is there is a sworn in president. If this changes, there isn't the former president. The chain of command is the president, then the vice president, then the house speaker. If the election was invalid, it means a new election except hypothetically you are without an acting president. In which case the senate is the ruling power until there is a lawful president. Otherwise it is a military coup. But it isn't the former president. He isn't in office. He wasn't sworn in as acting president. He has a claim, sure, it is invalid. Doesn't validating it mean changing the constitution. Wouldn't it have to create a new ammendment? Who has that power when there is an acting president, vetoing?
What is that truth? Isn't it easier to obscure. Because America already has a president.
Who knows how this turns out, we all are speculating. My guess no where else. Shamefully. What's done is done and cannot be undone. By undoing things break burn and crumble.
Who knows man. As you say, we're just speculating. It's unchartered territory right? I don't know the ins and outs of election law but it's pretty fucked if you can cheat your way to POTUS and be like "oh well, damage is done. I'm in charge now".
It is because of the wrong tech we have this problem. The constitution hasn't quite adapted to it. The fact an election can be hacked or even cheated. The way voters aren't verified and were mass mailed. Untrusted individuals counting votes. It is horrifying there are people counting votes who barely even speak English. It can become a recipe for disaster and foul play.
Tech needs to adapt. Any ballots should have been personalized and verified by the named individual with a unique QR code to their social security numbers verifying by a standing vote. Eliminating fraud. Too much tech an election becomes hacked. As in it casts votes for people who simply didn't and don't vote. Look at the choices. I think this election stunk. No way did it happen like that. But why on earth did it not have the same voting as per usual. COVID or not.
We are speculating but there is no law or amendment on if the wrong president has been sworn in. There is only impeachment following the chain of command. For a president to be reinstated it is technically impossible, it requires a brand new law or legislation. Why would the current admin submit if they can veto. Of course they would lose public opinion but look at public opinion anyway right now, if they weren't even elected.
The only thing America will do is keep the chain of command logically voting next time. It could be worse for the greater good. Feelings aside. There is more to lose than the right thing. The right thing didn't happen to begin with. Now there's only the wrong thing.
Sure if America wants to trigger a collapse where trillions are wiped out overnight and anarchy ensues becoming a global reaction. It might do that thing, otherwise this logically isn't going anywhere else any time soon
Yeah, the whole election process in the US is completely unfit for purpose, with so many elements ripe to be meddled with. It is anything but secure.