Amish are by religion, anti vaxx. Like most orthodox religions. Amish are also anti technology. Unlike some other religions inclined to possibly consider vaccines. Maybe they vaccinated? First I have heard of it. Other likewise puritans don't.
So how did they reach herd immunity, off the newly coined term, it was changed from past descriptions into herd immunity is achieved by vaccination? Not natural immunity from antibodies. That article is from the N.Y post. Wouldn't it use the new description?
Amish aren't disconnected, they regularly trade with any surrounding communities. Any other communities travel through each other. They are disconnected from technology no TV or radio, etc.
Strangely any Amazonian indigenous tribes got COVID, and quite a few supposedly died from the media's narratives. Yet the Amish have reached natural antibodies?
The operative word is "disconnected". Afaik amish are not antivax or anti-technology. They are more like anti-grid. Some amish use electrical generators but not grid-power. Amish wear glasses but don't watch tv. It's not like technology is haram for them, it's more like umbilical cords connecting the Amish to a degenerate idiot slut society are haram, because it destroys self-reliance. At this point I wonder if they haven't been on to something all along.
They have a great lifestyle, it is the fact it also imprisons and becomes oppression because it is isolated. Imagine being born into it, you would sooner envy another lifestyle, it could lead to persecution by your own community for simply being curious in growth. Obviously on finding knowledge perhaps they truly have a better way because ultimately they have found peace. It however is not without flaw or threats to it. Because it is segregated or as you say disconnected.
This is what any society is all about. Individuals have to make decisions on the extent to which they comply with societal norms. This is always a struggle and a compromise because both compliance and basedness come at a price.
it could lead to persecution by your own community
All communities go after their mavericks one way or the other, only the norms and penalties vary.
Sane societies and sane parents educate their children not only on their norms, but also on the price for basedness vs. compliance as well as odds, so that their offspring can make an informed decision on which balance between compliance or basedness will work out for them or how to assess options in different situations.
I know virtually nothing about the amish, but I keep hearing that they give adolescent community members a year in the outside world for trying the sweet life on the grid. This suggests that the Amish are a sane society in terms outlined above. The practice also shows immense confidence in their education and lifestyle.
American culture has always idolized the maverick who makes it, although most misfits probably don't. This is productive for a civilization with an expanding frontier with rapid technological progress and lots of opportunity, but probably a mistake for anyone else. Mavericks are good for innovation, including societal innovation, but this is obviously not what the Amish are all about. Innovation or technical progress is not automatically a good thing, btw., although an absolute requirement for war and self-defense. This makes Amish self-reliance somewhat doubtful if you look under the surface, because they could not have an effective army if they were a country.
They wanted peace. Primarily what they were about. They settled simply because at the time of founding had more freedom than the feudalism they escaped from. Today the constitution has changed. There are far more laws and taxes. Their lifestyle is perhaps threaten more. Perhaps even existentially.
The same could be said for nations like Bhutan and Costa Rica and perhaps others which don't have an army per say.
Although I don't know enough about the Amish either but don't they oppose weapons. Supposedly violence although don't they employ corporal punishment?
They will always need to be under a protectorate. Because there simply isn't a globe with peace. As a nation they would be open to annihilation for any resources they settled on. Their lifestyle would distance themselves like an otherwise indigenous tribe sooner assimilated or destroyed. Although aren't there some Island communities similar to the Amish not quite as distanced from the rest of modern society but socially distanced from civilization. Falklands, Greenland. Eskimos in Canada. Laplanders in Finland, Russia. Tribes in Pakistan and Mongolia. Isn't there a very similar although more technological culture in the Atlantic on an Island with an active volcano, a completely isolated community.
Innovation into what. If we go back to the unibomber, remember the quote, the car lost us freedom, we are now bound by traffic and are forced into taxation. Same as electricity. Until some renewables have provided more self reliance often redundantly as they are an exploit because they are virtually unrepairable. Renewed at far greater increasing costs. None are environmental. Unlike a generator, or coal furnace, where with simple resources are easily self sufficient. Since the unibomber, we are now fully branded, today, look at these vaccine passports. Importantly an internet where we are enslaved until we don't even have free speech, we are bound by increasing rules. Not for our peace but for simple exploitation.
Amish are by religion, anti vaxx. Like most orthodox religions. Amish are also anti technology. Unlike some other religions inclined to possibly consider vaccines. Maybe they vaccinated? First I have heard of it. Other likewise puritans don't.
So how did they reach herd immunity, off the newly coined term, it was changed from past descriptions into herd immunity is achieved by vaccination? Not natural immunity from antibodies. That article is from the N.Y post. Wouldn't it use the new description?
Amish aren't disconnected, they regularly trade with any surrounding communities. Any other communities travel through each other. They are disconnected from technology no TV or radio, etc.
Strangely any Amazonian indigenous tribes got COVID, and quite a few supposedly died from the media's narratives. Yet the Amish have reached natural antibodies?
The operative word is "disconnected". Afaik amish are not antivax or anti-technology. They are more like anti-grid. Some amish use electrical generators but not grid-power. Amish wear glasses but don't watch tv. It's not like technology is haram for them, it's more like umbilical cords connecting the Amish to a degenerate idiot slut society are haram, because it destroys self-reliance. At this point I wonder if they haven't been on to something all along.
They have a great lifestyle, it is the fact it also imprisons and becomes oppression because it is isolated. Imagine being born into it, you would sooner envy another lifestyle, it could lead to persecution by your own community for simply being curious in growth. Obviously on finding knowledge perhaps they truly have a better way because ultimately they have found peace. It however is not without flaw or threats to it. Because it is segregated or as you say disconnected.
This is what any society is all about. Individuals have to make decisions on the extent to which they comply with societal norms. This is always a struggle and a compromise because both compliance and basedness come at a price.
All communities go after their mavericks one way or the other, only the norms and penalties vary.
Sane societies and sane parents educate their children not only on their norms, but also on the price for basedness vs. compliance as well as odds, so that their offspring can make an informed decision on which balance between compliance or basedness will work out for them or how to assess options in different situations.
I know virtually nothing about the amish, but I keep hearing that they give adolescent community members a year in the outside world for trying the sweet life on the grid. This suggests that the Amish are a sane society in terms outlined above. The practice also shows immense confidence in their education and lifestyle.
American culture has always idolized the maverick who makes it, although most misfits probably don't. This is productive for a civilization with an expanding frontier with rapid technological progress and lots of opportunity, but probably a mistake for anyone else. Mavericks are good for innovation, including societal innovation, but this is obviously not what the Amish are all about. Innovation or technical progress is not automatically a good thing, btw., although an absolute requirement for war and self-defense. This makes Amish self-reliance somewhat doubtful if you look under the surface, because they could not have an effective army if they were a country.
They wanted peace. Primarily what they were about. They settled simply because at the time of founding had more freedom than the feudalism they escaped from. Today the constitution has changed. There are far more laws and taxes. Their lifestyle is perhaps threaten more. Perhaps even existentially.
The same could be said for nations like Bhutan and Costa Rica and perhaps others which don't have an army per say.
Although I don't know enough about the Amish either but don't they oppose weapons. Supposedly violence although don't they employ corporal punishment?
They will always need to be under a protectorate. Because there simply isn't a globe with peace. As a nation they would be open to annihilation for any resources they settled on. Their lifestyle would distance themselves like an otherwise indigenous tribe sooner assimilated or destroyed. Although aren't there some Island communities similar to the Amish not quite as distanced from the rest of modern society but socially distanced from civilization. Falklands, Greenland. Eskimos in Canada. Laplanders in Finland, Russia. Tribes in Pakistan and Mongolia. Isn't there a very similar although more technological culture in the Atlantic on an Island with an active volcano, a completely isolated community.
Innovation into what. If we go back to the unibomber, remember the quote, the car lost us freedom, we are now bound by traffic and are forced into taxation. Same as electricity. Until some renewables have provided more self reliance often redundantly as they are an exploit because they are virtually unrepairable. Renewed at far greater increasing costs. None are environmental. Unlike a generator, or coal furnace, where with simple resources are easily self sufficient. Since the unibomber, we are now fully branded, today, look at these vaccine passports. Importantly an internet where we are enslaved until we don't even have free speech, we are bound by increasing rules. Not for our peace but for simple exploitation.