I just flew from the US to Japan without crossing Europe. If the earth isn’t round, Based on every model you have, How is that possible ?
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Didn't a recent University of Alaska(?) study just confirm that it is scientifically certain that the freefall speeds must have been triggered via some sort of a controlled demolition and not fires? That the official reasoning in the 9/11 reports is literally impossible to replicate in any way shape or form?
Yep, Fairbanks:
https://www.ae911truth.org/evidence/evidence-overview
Do you have any response to these findings?
yeah it's a simple response... bullshit.
when the system fails it looks like freefall because it is. when the damaged area can no longer support the weight of the building above, it fails spectacularly.
that doesn't mean someone, or a team of someone's was somehow able to spend months cutting holes in drywall to expose critical structural elements, making all the necessary weakening cuts on that critical structure, and rigging the buildings with explosives... while going completely unnoticed by the thousands of people who worked there every day.
when the buildings were damaged the remaining supports in that area were now required to hold extra weight/stresses. when those now stressed elements were then heated they reached a point where they could no longer hold the weight of the building above and the upper building fell through the damaged area.
i don't care how well you design a building, it's not able to "catch" the upper portions of a falling skyscraper.
they tend to be heavy, and inertia is a thing.
also
if you did rig a building with explosives, they would have gone off when the planes hit the building and the buildings would have fell right after the plane impacts.
and
rigging a building for demolition requires hundreds of miles of control wire and/or det cord chains to initiate the charges, which would have been blatantly obvious to the people who worked there.
lastly
if you spent all this time and energy rigging a building for explosion, why would you smash planes into those buildings risking severing the control wires rendering your demolition prep useless... thus risking the post event inspectors could find these devices and your entire plot would be discovered.
nothing about this "controlled demo" theory makes a bit of sense, it's a ridiculous theory designed to make people who question the things that happened that day look like complete morons. it's the reason people make fun of anyone who wants to talk about all the other shady shit that happened that day, or led up to that day, it's forever tainting the entire event so that i can't point out to people that we absolutely shot down that 4th plane without people accusing me of believing in utter nonsense controlled demo theories.
it was intentional, just as the OP here suggests, to discredit all investigations into the day and conspiracy theories in general.
If you haven’t watched “Zeitgeist” I highly recommend it. It gets into all of these questions you raise. Also, there was thermite and direct evidence that explosions took place based on survivor interviews. Have you seen the film I’m referring to? I think it would be very informative to you.
i've watched it, and i've watched corey and dylans lame attempt at selling DVD's... it's all nonsense.
the "evidence" of "thermite residue" is literally someone saying they found aluminum and iron oxide (rust) in the dust of the collapse.
two of the more common metals or metal oxides found in any building in the world.
yes, there are more exotic compositions (in particular using magnesium+aluminum alloy aka mag/al or "magnalium", some use copper oxide rather than iron oxide), however all of them are using the same essential methodology... create a metal fire hot enough to get the lower melt metal to burn, creating enough heat to melt the high melt temp metals to liquidize and flow onto the target.
there is zero evidence of thermatic melt, zero evidence of chain "explosions" caught on audio in the lead up to the collapse, and zero evidence of any of the necessary pre-demo work to make that a viable tactic...
incidentally i'd highly suggest you look into thermite, how it's made (8:3 ratio of iron oxide and aluminum), how it's commonly initiated (usually by using a stepped combustion to bring the temps up high enough to trigger the exothermic reaction in the aluminum... ie e-match -> BP slurry coated sparkler -> thermite), how thermite reacts when you are able to initiate the reaction (hint it doesn't "explode" so you wouldn't hear explosions anyway), etc...
you can add things to the composition mix (like sulfur or other free oxidizers) to lower the ignition temps, but the utilization of thermite in demolitions is essentially just starting an aluminum fire in some form of crucible, that aluminum uses the "oxide" from the iron oxide to burn, producing tremendous heat that is hot enough to leave behind slag/molten iron. this molten iron is then used to either weld things or cut things but it needs gravity to do it... you essentially drip or pour the hot metal onto your target.
if i place a flower pot on the hood of your car filled with thermite, then jab a sparkler into it and light it... the sparkler is hot enough to initiate the reaction and the whole contraption would begin to spit and sputter sparks and molten metal until the reaction worked it's way through the powdered thermite composition and found that little hole in the bottom of the flower pot...
the molten iron then pours out that little hole and burrows a hole through your hood, and most of the way through the top of your engine.
it would look like your engine got hit by a fucking meteorite...
but it doesn't explode.
anyone saying "there was thermite because witnesses say they heard explosions" doesn't understand how thermite works (thermite doesn't explode).
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in order to rig a building for demo you have to pretty much gut the damn thing. you have to get down to the supporting structure. in order to do this you gotta bust holes in drywall and fireproofing and insulation... then make weakening cuts with a cutting torch or a grinding disk, then attach cutting charges to the remaining structure to complete your cuts.
it's long tedious messy loud noticeable job that takes months even for small buildings.
it takes massive crews the better part of a year to rig a building that size for demo.
thousands of people worked in all three of those buildings every day, that work would have been noticed.
beyond that, in order to control all these cutting charges, you would need to connect these charges to one another or a central blasting box that can initiate the charges using electricity to pass fire to the primary devices (usually e-matches) that initiate the secondary devices.
the only other way to tie all these charges together would be using some type of det-cord chains.
this brings up two major problems with the theory...
if it was ematches and a blasting control box... the planes could have severed the control wires rendering the cutting charges useless. way to big of a risk to take and as i mentioned earlier... this method requires miles of control wires. there would have been a telephone thick truck line of wires running down the stair case by the time you got to the bottom.
it it was det-cord, the impact of the planes and the ensuing fireball from the aerosolized jet fuel fireball would have trigged the det-cord chains and all the shaped charges on impact of the planes... so the buildings would have fallen right away.
lastly... thermite requires that containment to function, you can't just paint things with a thermite paint and expect it to do anything other than briefly heating up the steel... frankly unless you painted it on a few inches thick it probably wouldn't react at all because the powder needs to be loose to allow air to be mixed into the composition for it to function properly... you can't have it locked up in a thin painted on film and expect it to do anything more than just make something hot for a few seconds.
... look... i've been in blasting, demo, and pyrotechnics most of my adult life. i've personally built more thermite devices than i've had birthdays. moreover i know people who've been in the building demo business, who's families have been into blasting and demo, for generations...
none of the people who do this sort of thing for a living have ever found any of the "9/11 controlled demo" theories to be worth a squirt of piss.
we laugh about it.
it's a fucking joke.
i firmly believe the entire thing was planted into conspiracy circles so people would shift focus away from important questions and onto the nonsense they invented.
it appears to have worked.
Wow, thank you for the thorough response man. I will certainly have to look more into all of that but on the surface, unless you are a top tier bull-shitter, it sounds like you know your stuff.
I personally know jack about those reactions and technical factors in controlled demolition but it was an attractive theory along with the support of the Fairbanks study and the claims saying the parameters for the 9/11 commission report have never been able to be duplicated in any independent studies attempting to recreate the event.
Some things I would be curious about your take on in order to attempt to discredit the Zeitgeist movie further if you don't mind taking a crack? Because it sounds like you are knowledgeable and level headed and you're the first person I've encounter who might have facts/ sound theories to back it up.
The basement workers claims of getting blown to shit in the lower levels of the building like a bomb went off. People dying, getting thrown to the ceiling, wall, etc.
The images of the perfectly angled cuts in the supporting beams.
The "rivers" of molten steel within the rubble that looked like a foundry according to the firefighters.
4 The clearly scripted phony interviews with talking points built in given by "witnesses" with those handlers standing behind them.
Reports of tower 7 collapsing before it even happened
Tower 7 collapsing perfectly like a controlled demo via "debris that started a fire".
The free fall speeds that don't support the pancake style collapse (the top layers failing and at least encountering some interference to slow the collapse)