Did you know that the biblical “God” was once merely a wandering desert tribe’s god of war?
After casting off their other gods “for I AM a jealous god” they were “chosen” by the one that remained.
Have you heard the story of Sophia? Mother of Christ and the malformed stillbirth yahweh?
The ungraced “one most high”? Who’s peak could never extend past the physical morass into the spiritual pleuroma?
These are just my thoughts, but the story fed to us at mass through the cannibal rituals led by pedophiles reeks of control and contractual complacency (I include all Churches under this description, out of fairness, some have been more exposed than others)
Sure I can. But I don’t think you’ll go along.
So here are just a few arguements why there must be a God. You will find that there are literally no good arguments to prove that there is no God.
You have no evidence that something came from nothing, that there was ever nothing and not always something. Nor do you have any evidence that what produced something is a god, let alone any specific god such as the one imagined by wandering sand people whose descendants rape kids to blackmail our political leaders.
Your definition of evil is subjective. You don't perfectly agree with anyone on what good or evil means. If there was a single objective definition of evil handed down by a benevolent all knowing and all powerful god, there would be no question as to what's evil or what's good. But there are massive disagreements on what's good and evil. Today most westerners think raping a 12 year old is wrong. Most middle easterners, and even many of the European ancestors of the modern west, consider 12 a ripe age for a girl to get married and think it's not rape to fuck your 12 year old wife. If raping a 12 year old was objectively evil, there would not be this disagreement between middle east and west nor between modern and ancient west. You can believe subjectively that raping 12 year olds is wrong because of the harm it does to innocent developing kids - and I do - but that doesn't make it a fundamental law of nature.
You're the product of billions of years of slaughter and non-consensual reproduction. Most of human history is a story of both large and small scale violence, including violence committed by many of your ancestors. Some of those wars were subjectively good because they helped spread human civilization and improved the human gene pool (feel free to disagree on whether that makes them good or not) and others were bad because they destroyed civilization and degraded the gene pool. Violence is not even inherently good or evil, so what do you think is?
4-5. Huge logical leaps. You don't know the universe isn't infinite, we haven't seen nearly all of it yet. You don't know how the universe began or even if it has a set beginning. The universe could be cyclical, expanding from the big bang and then contracting again a hundred billion years later until the conditions are right for a new big bang.
I’m surprised you actually responded! Most people run off. I will answer back, but please don’t be offended. I don’t mean any attack personally on you, it’s just that I have seen all these argument before. Okay so I hope you can get through it.
All right, so I really would suggest you look at some of the guys I mentioned earlier. Anybody with any sort of credential in academia has gone up against William Lane Craig, and lost because he is right. It is really fascinating and at very least would give you a little bit more sophistication when discussing this with somebody like me, who is actually looked into this stuff, and can’t be bluffed. In any case, I’ve done this a lot and doubt you’ll go any further. You don’t research to discover the truth, you only learn enough so you can do what you want, and not have to answer to God for it. But you’re fooling yourself. We will all have to stand before Him, and what will you say when that day comes?
2-3. To me personally there's a difference between these things. To the universe as a whole there is not. To me personally it's wrong to fuck an infant or murder a child. To the universe, death and sex have been a part of life for billions of years on this planet and the only right or wrong of it is what works for the survival of your genes and what doesn't. You claim your morality is objective and universal, but you offer no proof other than your feelings, and you can't explain why so many people disagree on what is morally good or evil.
I don't "believe" the universe is cyclical, I recognize it as one unproven possibility among many. The universe could be cyclical. The universe could have been created by god. The big bang could have been caused by interdimensional beings or aliens or something that is bound by natural laws but more advanced than us. I don't know which of the many possibilities for how the universe came to be is true. Neither do you, but you replace your lack of knowledge with "god" to explain what you don't and can't know.
Kalam is philosophy/theology/conjecture, not science. The universe can't be proven to be finite. If the foundational assumptions of kalam are wrong, then any conclusions that logically flow from them are wrong as well.
i was raised religious, I believe evolution because it's provably true and created us., not because of propaganda or not being exposed to other ideas. It's the religious who need thought control to protect their ideas, not scientists. You claim that physics was finely tuned to allow life but can't explain why life is so rare in such a vast universe. If our universe was designed by a creator for the purpose of our existence, why all the extraneous bullshit? Physics could have been designed completely differently from the meta level to the nano level to make our entire universe more hospitable to life, not just the occasional rock that happens to be in the right conditions by random chance out of billions of rocks floatiing through space.
I can imagine a universe more fine tuned to support life than this one, therefore this universe was not designed by a creator with intelligence beyond mine for the purposes of creating life.