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GAMESTONK - Megathread
posted 4 years ago by axolotl_peyotl 4 years ago by axolotl_peyotl +165 / -6

This is undoubtedly a sticky-worthy happening. Overview:

Louis Rossmann: Why MSM's slander of /r/wallstreetbets pisses me off regarding GME

Follow up

Gamestonk!!

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– BaltimoreCrew 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I’m going to call it now. One of the discount brokers will go BK by the end of this as Reddit traders on margin cause a forced liquidation when they get stuck holding shares from auto assigned options contracts (they couldn’t pay for on Margin) and the broker can’t settle trades. You can already see some of the speculation in the bigger players stock prices down 5-10% today.

This actually happened to Schwab back in the 80s. They had a whale in Asia short some stock who couldn’t cover and they had to get someone to buy them. Schwab himself bought the company back, but a market crash happened in the middle of it causing things to be much worse.

I guarantee some of these idiots are 20x leveraged on these trades.

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– arjunas1 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

DONT let your buys float around.

assign a sell order. thatll lock the stock.

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– BaltimoreCrew 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

https://www.optionseducation.org/referencelibrary/faq/options-assignment

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– arjunas1 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

im a noob.

care to elaborate?

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– BaltimoreCrew 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah. So if you want to make more $$$ on a trade in terms of leverage you trade options vs the stock, which is what a lot of folks do. If you want to bet the stock goes up you can buy calls, pretty simple. Your max risk is what you buy basically (assuming you sell before expiration), but you can get assigned the stock (because you bought an option to acquire it at a future price on a future date). if you don’t indicate you want to sell it with an order you can get forced to go into the market (or they’ll do it for you) and buy how many shares your contract represents (100 usually).

Conversely some folks like to go wheels up and sell puts (aka naked out). Which is short the contract, but makes cash now because you receive the premium or what you paid for the contract. This appears to be what a lot of newbs did on margin. If they are auto executed as the contracts would be in the money they are forced to deliver, which is likely to happen. This will force the stock even higher.

If an investor writes (sells naked) a put option, that investor is obligated to purchase shares of the underlying stock if the put option buyer exercises the option.

Based on my experience with these things I’m guessing what will happen is once these stock shorts are done buying their shares back to cover this run a ton of smart money will be buying puts as the dumb money (novice Reddit traders) sell puts thinking it won’t crash and that they’ve won (essentially being short on margin). The inverse will happen, the stock will crumble before the Feb expiration and the long puts will exercise their contracts forcing the short puts to cover. Basically a giant whipsaw of epic proportions, with a ton of traders owing broker dealers hard cash and not margin or shares as they’re auto assigned the contracts.

On short puts the downside is unlimited, whereas the upside is what you received for selling the contract in the first place.

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