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Signal is experiencing technical difficulties today and not able to send messages.
posted 4 years ago by PyramidsAreCrazyShit 4 years ago by PyramidsAreCrazyShit +7 / -1

Either Signal is experiencing exponential growth like other alt-tech platforms, or the government is after them.

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– CrazyRussian 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Still wondering, why people are so dependent on all that centralized messengers, and when they finally abandon all that thing that fundamentally dependent on large money? How many times do they need to be resold again and again? And that phone numbers for registration. It's just ridiculous!

Why not use something like tox, irc, or xmpp? Jesus Christ, even simple maillists could do absolutely everything all that messengers could offer. No authority could shut it down, or use it for surveillance, there just no central point of failure they could abuse.

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– Jjabrams 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Can you say more about this I'm tech stupid. Decentralized chat messengers exist ?

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– CrazyRussian 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

For a long time.

There are two types of decentralization:

  1. P2P - when there are no any servers at all. Shortly. it is like torrent with DHT or, say, eMule, but users send messages to each other, not files. Users find each other using DHT (Distributed Hash Table) - a shared database of user IDs. Example of P2P messenger is Tox. There are a lot of clients, most advanced, I think, is qTox. Since there are no servers, there is nothing to shut down. There is no possibility to censor it. Also, nobody will find you or your group without your will - best protection from shills. Users connects to each other directly, without any third-party. The disadvantage of P2P is a necessity to continously exchange with some data with other nodes to maintain a DHT. It is possible to use it on smartphone, but I will not recommend it, because you get fast battery discharge due to small, but permanent data exchange.

  2. Federation. There is multiple servers, you could run your own, or, say, use the server of your trusted friend. Examples are e-mail, XMPP(aka Jabber), Fediverse (Mastodon, Diaspora, Frendica). Since there are no any central server, and servers could connect with each other, it can't be shut down easily. If you shut down one server, others will continue to work. The disadvantage is that you need a server. Run your own on VPS, or ask a trusted IT friend to set one up.

There are also IRC, ZeroNet, PeerTube and other projects.

Both variants have another huge advantage over centralized messengers - more users is better. :) Especially for P2P.

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– Jjabrams 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This needs to be stickied. Wow

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– Dominion4UsAll 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Glad I know how to use PGP encryption.

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– PyramidsAreCrazyShit [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Can you point me in the direction of some good reading on this?

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– Dominion4UsAll 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

https://youtu.be/4PZb0tkxuUk That is simply how to use it.

Here's some more in depth info as to what it is. https://www.varonis.com/blog/pgp-encryption/

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