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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

or you could of course conduct no research and continue to blindly believe that what you were required to learn and parrot is inerrantly true; however, it is the position/path of the ignorant fool and religious zealot - not the intellectual/earnest student.

reality is stranger than fiction because fiction is obliged to possibility.

consider that your quips are only flimsy excuses to ignore and refuse to consider alternatives. conditioned tactics of a zealot designed to protect their faith at all costs.

if what i were saying (about orbit and space) was true - would you want to know it? could your ego take the hit? could you cast off your foolish pride and undue certainty to recognize that - yet again - you were wrong?

there is no shame in recognizing you believed in foolish things you had no evidence to support. there is no shame in being wrong. there is immense shame in refusing to recognize your mistakes to shield your pride - don’t you agree?

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

lol.

of course, one could flippantly say that about anything (and even to people not named jack)!

i know what i’m saying sounds unthinkable, but i encourage you to do some research on it. even if you refuse, as it seems you do, to consider that orbit is fictional - you will see that i am entirely correct that that is its clear historical origin.

we are encouraged to believe, through conditioning by rote under the guise of education (from childhood), that that fiction ultimately ended up being totally real and scientific - but no one can deny that it did not start that way. it was simply made up, fabricated, imagined - aka fiction.

the “void” of space also began that way, and was first created by the coimbra jesuits (aka monks). also entirely fictional and, according to us in our modern wisdom, just happened to be totally real, correct, and scientific.

there is a lot to study on this topic, and i assure you - i know plenty if you ever want to discuss it further!

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just keep posting the same link to the same comment you can’t read or understand.

I’m sure that will help establish that you are totally not a bot :(

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just keep posting the same link to the same comment you can’t read or understand.

I’m sure that will help establish that you are totally not a bot :(

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

no one said the earth was flat, nor “admitted” anything. stop listening to the voices in your head.

yes, that link is a comment of mine. you should try reading it sometime, if you are at all capable of doing so.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

no one said the earth was flat, nor “admitted” anything. stop listening to the voices in your head.

yes, that link is a comment of mine. you should try reading it sometime, if you are at all capable of doing so.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

but i can go outside right now with an antenna and prove that it is

how?

there is no point in giving any more time to researching the flat earth

it certainly seems that way at first glance, but i assure you this is not the case - regardless of the true shape of the earth.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +2 / -1

The people that think man is not smart enough to orbit the Earth are the real villains

smart has nothing to do with it. impossible things can’t be done no matter how smart you are.

orbit is entirely fictional. and if you learn about the history of the concept - you find that it always was from the very beginning.

i, once again, invite you to exchange views in further depth on flatearthresearch.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

no one said anything about that.

learn to read (if you can / are not a bot), and stop listening to the voices in your head.

if you want to inanely mutter to yourself - do it without posting/commenting!

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

no one said anything about that.

learn to read (if you can / are not a bot), and stop listening to the voices in your head.

if you want to inanely mutter to yourself - do it without posting/commenting!

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

The post is archived

oh no! the post you didn’t read and don’t understand is now archived?! heavens to betsy, whatever shall we do?

All of your spam is meaningless

it’s only spam to you because you don’t read or understand it. it’s the same reason you failed to find a single instance of me refusing to answer a question of yours. you are delusional and childish. do better, if you can.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

It isn’t

so you keep repeating, but no amount of repeating will ever change the shape of the world. if it is flat, all your zealous and blind faith won’t make it stop being flat.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +1 / -0

It’s not working

yes, and it’s a waste of time. maybe you should try discussing with me, instead of muttering to yourself?

Did. You refused to answer

when? please cite/quote/link to this “refusal”. when you fail to do this, and realize you can’t - will you learn anything?

Nothing you say or do will ever change this.

just like nothing you say or do will ever change the shape of the world. if the world is flat, no amount of your belief, words or actions will ever make it stop being so.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

Strawman

a strawman is when you falsely/mockingly associate a position with your opponent in a debate and then handily defeat that contrived position for rhetorical purpose.

it is not when you merely repeat the position of the person you are “speaking” to. if you don’t like your position / what you’re doing - then stop it. recognize and admit that people who have differing views than you aren’t automatically agents of tel aviv and that declaring they are is a vain and pathetic tactic you use to discard, ignore, and justify ad hominem.

if you don’t like being described as what you are and for what you are doing, change.

Said the flat earther.

lol, so delusion wouldn’t be a flimsy shield if a flat earther said it was? things aren’t true or false depending on who says them - they are either true or false regardless of who says them. you seem to misunderstand this...

It’s not.

i’m telling you it is, and have good evidence to support my position. furthermore i am telling you that you merely believe that and do not know it, nor can you demonstrate it. however, you will undoubtedly ignore all that to protect your beliefs. it is slightly amusing because you do know and accept that you have been wrong and utterly fooled by those educators in the past - and yet stubbornly refuse to admit that it’s possible that anything else you believe you know could also be wrong!

If your wife wasn’t cheating on you, would you want to know it?

of course!

an admitted paid shill

only by the voices in your head - which you should stop listening to, by the way - especially when you are trying to have a conversation with someone.

who actually thinks that we will believe the earth is flat

again something you have entirely imagined. i explicitly don’t want you to believe in the shape of the world at all (flat, round, or any other shape)

refuse to answer any questions you have been asked about your claimed beliefs

i work very hard not to have any beliefs when it comes to knowledge, because belief is the enemy of knowledge and to objective study of any kind (it’s called bias). please cite/quote any earnest question you have posed to me that i have refused to answer. we both know you won’t and can’t do that, because i haven’t refused any questions you have asked me. you are delusional, and talking to voices in your head instead of me :(

This is what they actually believe

don’t be silly. the “jews” you are talking about know full well they are lying, though all pathological liars begin to believe the lies they tell at some point. repetition works on everyone.

The discussion is over.

ah, but can a discussion really be over when it never begun - because you refused, stuck your fingers in your ears, and screamed like a child instead?

you confirmed it yourself

the imaginary voices in your head are not my words. if you think i have confirmed your fantasy, then you can cite/quote the words i used to do so. when you fail to do this, will you learn anything?

as it strikes you

and i “struck” you, how?

You are the enemy

only in your fantasy/imagination. in reality you don’t know what i think, because you refuse to discuss it with me and instead have “conversations” with yourself peppered with ad hominem and calls to suicide.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +2 / -1

who thinks his paid shilling is going to be believed

yes, yes - everyone who has differing views to yours is a paid shill in tel aviv. classic, vapid, conpro trolling :(

what a happy coincidence that you get to dismiss and ignore anyone who has views you don’t agree with because they are “all paid shills”. delusion is a flimsy shield - you should try another.

Curvature of the earth

i know you believe such curvature is there, because it simply must be for the earth to be a globe as you were taught. the question was, what if what you were taught was wrong? would you want to know it, or would you prefer to continue to believe falsehoods instead?

It’s not

and so we are required to dogmatically believe in order to matriculate - but if it were, would you want to know it? why are you so frightened of a simple hypothetical question? seems very silly to be so afraid to answer - don’t you think? especially if you are correct, and the world is spherical as you were taught, - you should have nothing to fear.

I’d have to be wrong first

believing you couldn’t be (about this or anything) is proud, vain delusion. the possibility always exists that you could be wrong, doesn’t it?

Lies are like that, yeah.

everyone who has a differing view to you is not automatically lying (nor a shill, etc.) delusion is a flimsy shield.

i may be wrong, but i am not lying.

Said the flat earther.

i’m not a flat earther; i’m a flat earth researcher. flat earthers are largely agents/products of the flat earth psyop. i study the psyop, amongst other things.

you are the enemy

only because you have contrived an imaginary view of me. if you would earnestly discuss with me, civilly, instead - you would see that we are against the same common enemy and the shape of the world has very little to do with it.

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jack445566778899 2 points ago +2 / -0

The problem (for you) is that I do that.

the problem is that you have conversations with the voices inside your head instead of me, and don’t seem to understand what i write at all :( Again, if you don’t understand, try asking questions (of me! not the fictional voices in your head!).

Thank you for admitting

again, try turning down the schizo knob for a second if you can. try talking to me instead.

the earth is not flat

who said it was? one of the voices in your head? are you capable of having a conversation at all?

Everything you support is a hoax

so says the person? who can’t even specify what “hoax” it is i am supporting :(

you aren’t a mind reader. you can’t know what i think or “support” unless you discuss it with me first. you cant discuss with me by talking with the voices in your head.

Everything you believe is a lie

i know why you desperately need this to be true. do you?

again, you can’t know what i believe unless you discuss it with me first. would it kill you to ask a question or two?

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +2 / -1

Thank you for admitting

try reading what i write, and ignoring the voices in your head for a second - if you can.

entire narrative is a hoax

what narrative? are you feeling ok? you seem to have trouble reading and understanding the simple things i say :(

and that the earth is not flat.

who said it was? one of the voices? you really need to start ignoring those dude. try talking to me instead. i’m actually here!

in any case, the real question is - if the world were flat, would you want to know it?

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jack445566778899 -1 points ago +2 / -3

Still absolutely nothing to defend your hoaxes

if i did, you would never know it. you continue to refuse / be incapable of simple, and/or civil, discussion.

in any case, what hoax did you think i mentioned? your reading comprehension is very poor :(

The angular diameter of the sun can never be negative if it is above the horizon

again, no one said it was. you should try discussing with someone other than yourself if you want to understand their position. when you don’t understand, you should try asking questions!

the primary reason the sun (and all other distant objects) appears to set is due to the density gradient in our air which tends to cause light that travels through it to curve convexly towards the surface. this is also why the bottom disappears first, and vice versa.

The earth is not flat

no one said it was. stop talking to yourself, or at least - do it without posting/commenting.

the real question is, if it were flat - would you want to know it? could you accept that, yet again, you were miserably wrong about something you were taught as inerrant truth by an infallible teacher?

You are clinically insane

i don’t frequently proclaim/threaten and advocate suicide like some. i just have unpopular views.

in any case, i would leave pop-psy in the trash where it belongs if i were you. you ought to know enough by now to recognize it is merely a tool of our common enemy.

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jack445566778899 0 points ago +1 / -1

the flat earth conspiracy exists purely to discredit other real conspiracies

that’s sort of true.

the rationally offensive flat earth conspiracy is pushed/advertised by the flat earth psyop to drive people away from the subject and, as a fringe benefit, well poison / discredit other legitimate conspiracies.

humanity requires no conspiracy (nor help) to be stupid and wrong as they historically always are. the shape of the world just is. conspiracy doesn’t have any impact on it, nor necessary relevance to it.

the earth is round

and if it wasn’t, would you want to know it? this is an important question, and one only you can answer - for yourself.

anyone who believes / pushes otherwise is either so stupid and gullable that they are likely to forget how to breathe

there are virtually no people this stupid. certainly not in the numbers advertised to us on the interwebz.

or are controlled opposition

bingo.

pushing it to discredit conspiracy theorists as a whole.

actually, as i said above, this is just a fringe benefit because the psyop has been so successful. the primary purpose of the flat earth psyop is to suppress and drive people away from the valuable subject.

if you would like to explore/understand earnest flat earth research further, or merely criticize it, please join us on flatearthresearch. i can assure you it is not studied by idiots or anything like what the heavily advertised (i.e. funded) flat earth psyop falsely portrays it as.

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +2 / -1

The Earth is not flat.

who said it was?

i just shared the fact that the greeks assumed the world was spherical and then taught it to children disingenuously/ erroneously as fact forever after, and that the calculations for circumference absolutely depend on that assumption to be correct.

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jack445566778899 -1 points ago +2 / -3

also refuses to answer it

i’ve answered it repeatedly and invited you to discuss it in more depth... instead you stick your fingers in your ears and scream like a child so you can continue to pretend there is no answer. it’s very sad :(

This is how mentally defective paid shills actually are

you mean like you? muttering to yourself like a schizo instead of being capable of a simple or civil discussion? as i’ve told you repeatedly, if you want to ignore everything i have to say and talk to yourself - you can do that without posting/commenting.

This is what they actually think we will believe.

actually, i don’t want you to believe anything. belief is the enemy of knowledge, and the reason we are in this mess in the first place. if people actually knew what the shape of the world was for certain, we wouldn’t need to have this discussion. instead, they merely believe and repeat/parrot :(

You have no evidence for this claim

lol, do you really think this or are you just being reflexively argumentative? it is a simple observation that you can perform for yourself. you can do it with a drone, you can do it with a fast elevator and a tall building, and you can do it at the beach (and most everywhere else) by laying down and standing up quickly. no one doubts the reality or evidence for this claim - they merely doubt the explanation of it due to conditioning by rote under the guise of education, from childhood.

You cannot say “just get higher” when you don’t know what happens when you go higher

of course i do. you get higher (in elevation) :P

Do not make this claim again

it isn’t so much a claim as it is an obvious and demonstrable fact. when you get higher you can see the set sun again, especially just after it sets.

Please drink bleach.

must you continue to be so afraid of a simple conversation? what makes you so cowardly? or is it just laziness? you’d rather me die than have to think - at all - for a few minutes? if you are right in your worldview, and i am wrong - you have nothing to fear and no reason to act this way...

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +5 / -4

Even Ancient Greeks figured that earth was a sphere

That’s true, they did figure it. Sadly, rather than ever checking/measuring/validating their assumption - they just went ahead and arrogantly taught it as fact to children for generations (continuing to today).

and even came close to measuring the circumference using simple Geometry and Math

Not if the unvalidated assumption that it was spherical was wrong - no. The eratosthenes procedure/calculation absolutely requires the world to be spherical (and many other unvalidated assumptions) in order to be meaningful.

FE is perfect for nullifying any serious investigation into Freemasonry, NASA and weather modification.

Not at all! In fact they dovetail into one another for obvious and straightforward reasons.

It's so fucking obvious

Not when you bother researching it thoroughly, no. It just seems simple/obvious at first glance. In part this is due to the heavily advertised (i.e. funded) flat earth psyop that intentionally and loudly conflates the subject (and its researchers) with offensively stupid ideas. If it truly were so obvious it was all too stupid to spend any time researching or earnestly discussing - why spend so much money on loudly advertising that constantly?

If you are at all interested in the subject, including against/critical, please join us on flatearthresearch to exchange our views in further depth!

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jack445566778899 1 point ago +3 / -2

careful, take your time!

accept no claim from any source before thorough/rigorous validation first!

i’m also happy to answer any questions i can, however i can only share my own views, research, and conclusions. because the subject is most often studied by independent researchers - other’s views often vary wildly.

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