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MikeNorton -1 points ago +2 / -3

I said released, not taken. Einstein.

[Report released]https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/mikehayes/police-final-report-on-sandy-hook-school-shooting

"After over a year of investigation, Connecticut state police publicly released their full report on the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dec. 14, 2012."

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MikeNorton -1 points ago +2 / -3

I didn't. You did.

"Pictures taken a full year after the event in question is not "crime scene photos" you filthy disgusting liar"

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MikeNorton -1 points ago +2 / -3

You ask for evidence, but when I ask you for any evidence about the photos being taken a year later you won't answer.

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MikeNorton -2 points ago +2 / -4

What?

You didn't answer. What makes you think the photos were taken a year after the shooting?

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MikeNorton -4 points ago +2 / -6

The bullet holes in the walls and glass do not depict a crime scene? I already told you the photos of the victims won't be released.

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MikeNorton -4 points ago +2 / -6

What makes you think they were taken a year after the shooting?

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MikeNorton -3 points ago +2 / -5

There are crime scene photos, if you meant photos of the bodies those weren't shown. and never will be released.

Columbine families were upset that photos of the bodies were leaked.

Columbine

"People don't want the pictures of their dead kids circulating on the Internet, which it appears likely is what's going to happen," said Brian Rohrbough, whose son Dan was one of the 13 killed"

Many of the people who think Sandy Hook was fake, also believe the Boston Bombing was faked. Despite hundreds of photos of bodies injured, blood. The blood was fake, the injured had prosthetics, etc.

"Stop listening to the goddamned MSM and you won't have problems."

MSM said Columbine was real though. Couldn't they have faked all the photos?

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MikeNorton -2 points ago +2 / -4

Sandy Hook report

Download the WDMCS School Interior 4 of 5 and you'll see the school kitchen with boxes of food and pizza that was being prepared.

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MikeNorton -3 points ago +2 / -5

Halbig was send records from Dean Foods. He thought the proved food had been delivered to Chalk Hill prior to 12/14/12.

What the invoices really showed was that the database was changed on 1/2/13, the kids started at Chalk Hill on 1/3. The address for food deliveries had to be changed since the kids were going to a new school. Once the database was changed, the system would show the address of Sandy hook as Chalk Hill in Monroe.

All explained here.

Halbig's Claim

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MikeNorton -2 points ago +2 / -4

There was food delivered to 12 Dickinson Dr Sandy Hook, Ct on 9/06/12.

Food Delivery

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MikeNorton -3 points ago +2 / -5

According to Carver, a competent emergency medical technician can declare someone dead in Connecticut. He would know.

Carver

EMT's have black triage tags. Black means the victim is dead, so they are able to declare someone dead on scene.

Halbig said many times EMT's weren't allowed in the school, but he was wrong. Cario, Cassavechia, Dragon, Meehan and Reed were all EMT's. Another, Blumenthal, was an RN.

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MikeNorton -4 points ago +2 / -6

Actually, those were photos released by the state police about a year after the shooting. Of course, the photos of the bodies weren't shown, there not going to show photos of dead 1st graders. The majority of the blood would have been where the victims were, so those photos wouldn't have been shown either.

Someone took the photos and put them here:

Sandy Hook Photos

Inside the school

Those photos were taken from Friday to Sunday. The ones at the end were taken on Sunday after they took stuff from rooms 8 and 10 and put them in the hallway. Some saw those and said that was proof the school was used for storage, but that's not the case.

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MikeNorton 1 point ago +1 / -0

This a video about the room 10 windows and their bullet holes.

Classroom 10

The Sednksy report has the explanation of the Bushmaster used in the school.

Sedensky Report

The state police also put out a press release in Jan '13saying what guns Lanza had with him at the school.

Lanza's guns

The claim about the free homes has been around for several years. You can check any county tax assessor in the US and then check homes for sale in that area. You'll find homes with a $0 or very cheap sale price.

You can look up Prof James Tracy's house in Boca Raton, Fla. It has a sale price of $0 listed several times.

This real estate site talks about homes with a $0 or $1 sale price.

Low Sale Price

The school was not quickly torn down. It was done starting in Oct 2013. Ten months after the shooting. The school was old, built im the mid 50's. Makes more sense to just build a new one.

[School demolition(https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna53372259)

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MikeNorton 0 points ago +1 / -1

There was also glass on the sidewalk outside.

broken glass

There was a gun found in the car and Lanza used the Bushmaster in the school. Why do you think proper evidence collection wasn't done?

The free houses thing was debunked.

Free homes debunked

The school wasn't used for storage. There is a photo that was taken after cops took stuff out of classrooms so they could look for more evidence.

Debunking Fetzer's book

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MikeNorton 0 points ago +1 / -1

For EMT's there are hot zones, warm zones and cold zones. Hot zones, cops go in first and secure the area. Sandy Hook would have been considered a hot zone, so the ambulances were staged at the firehouse.

The cops secured the area of the school where the victims were, then officer Cario brought three medics into the school.

EMS talking about Hot scenes

"Most EMS systems have operational protocols that prohibit responders from entering “hot scenes,” where the risk of injury is higher than acceptable."

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MikeNorton 0 points ago +1 / -1

Kept from the public? That's news video from the day of the shooting, It wasn't hidden from anyone

They victims were dead, no need for ambulances. By the time news helicopters were there, the shooting was over with.

There is a clearer version of that footage on YouTube

Firehouse

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MikeNorton 1 point ago +1 / -0

Mainstream media is more concerned with getting info fast than getting it right. Early reports at things like Sandy Hook are often wrong. Once they investigated, they figured out what guns Lanza had.

The gun found in the car was an Izhmash Canta-12 12 gauge Shotgun

In the school they found,

Bushmaster .223 caliber-- model XM15-E2S Glock 10 mm handgun Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun

State Police press release on the guns

The gun found in the car was actually found in the front passenger side of the car, and then placed in the trunk.

Sedensky Report

Page 23:

"Recovered from the car was an Izhmash Saiga-12, 12 gauge shotgun with two magazines containing a total of twenty rounds of ammunition.35 The shotgun and ammunition were originally seen in the passenger compartment of the car and were moved by police to the car’s trunk for safekeeping during the initial response and evacuation."

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MikeNorton 1 point ago +1 / -0

EMT's were allowed in. Two of the first responding officers, Cario and Dragon were also EMT's. Cario then brought in three more, Cassavechia, Reed and Meehan.

Cario's Statement

Cassavechia

The school was torn down starting in Oct 2013. The evidence had all been collected.

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MikeNorton 1 point ago +2 / -1

A doctor who reviewed the autopsies said the victims died almost immediately.

Hartford Consensus

During the Lenny Pozner/Jim Fetzer lawsuit, Wayne Carver did a deposition. Fetzer asked him who could declare the victims dead. Carver said a competent emergency medical technician could do that. There were EMT's in the school that could declare them dead.

Carver Deposition

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MikeNorton 0 points ago +2 / -2

There are also people who think Noah Pozner was really his half-brother Michael Vabner.

Vabner

Then other who think it's one of these guys.

Noah?

So, which one is it?

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