This came to mind earlier today, and I looked for the citations on this idea specifically (that the bar they worked at was involved in counterfeiting) but couldn’t find anything beyond a rogue 4chan post. This doesn’t seem right, as I remember far more discussion about this issue than that failed search would indicate...
Has this been memory holed or am I misremembering some anon’s guesswork?
Just a thought I’ve been ruminating on for a while that finally coalesced the other day:
Modern ideologies (such as marxism, libertarianism, MAGAism, etc) have, in reference to the massive success of religious ideologies and their framework, constructed themselves as if they are religions.
What do I mean by this?
- An all encompassing nature - religion is so sturdy because it attempts to provide a framework for every interaction between you and the rest of the world. Every person you meet, every word you hear from someone else, every thing you experience, you filter through your “belief framework”. In the past, this was basically limited to morality judgements “is this thing righteous or not?”
So even if your religious book(s) didn’t explicitly mention the scenario you find yourself in, religions offer enough “structure” such that any experience you undergo can be fed to this structure and an answer can be produced.
Modern political ideology has come to understand this, and has constructed itself such that now your political ideology can supplant your religious ideology, as your political ideology now can encompass your religious ideology and all the structure and function it provides (atleast, the political ideologies attempt this, I don’t think they’ve yet succeeded, which imo is why people who solely exercise a political ideology seem so schitzophrenic and unanchored in their beliefs/opinions).
I hope I’ve been able to convey what I mean in a way others can understand but if not just ask me to clarify.
Imo, the clown-like nature of the medical establishment is best summarized by the way they approach “placebo effect”.
Simultaneously nothing - and everything - wrapped into a cute little Latin word to obfuscate the deception.
Did you know that anti-depressant medication arguably doesn’t yield any effect beyond a placebo effect? Most don’t, because in recent decades new anti-depressants aren’t tested against a placebo, but against the older anti-depressants. Wow! And who could have guessed, but they’re just as effective (i.e. not).
The medications studied were amitriptyline, amylobarbitone, fluoxetine, imipramine, paroxetine, isocarbox-acid, trazodone, lithium, liothyronine, adinazolam, amoxapine, phenelzine, venlafaxine, maprotiline, tranylcypromine, and bupropion. Results show a substantial placebo effect in antidepressant medication and also a considerable benefit of medication over placebo. They also indicate that the placebo component of the response to medication is considerably greater than the pharmacological effect. Findings further suggest that antidepressants might function as active placebos, in which the side effects amplify the placebo effect by convincing patients that they are receiving a potent drug.
Even the studies that illustrate how big pharma manipulates data to fabricate a story must bow to the “conventional wisdom” on the “placebo effect”. People are curing themselves of depression, and if there is any “effect” from the drug it is its active side effects causing the patient to think the treatment is “doing something”. Imagine how effective the treatment would be if people weren’t being poisoned, but instead actively engaged in their own healing?
On that note, I bring up Wim Hof. In one study he revolutionized western sciences understanding of the placebo effect (unfortunately 99% of western science hasn’t heard the news).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4034215/
SIGNIFICANCE: Hitherto, both the autonomic nervous system and innate immune system were regarded as systems that cannot be voluntarily influenced. The present study demonstrates that, through practicing techniques learned in a short-term training program, the sympathetic nervous system and immune system can indeed be voluntarily influenced. Healthy volunteers practicing the learned techniques exhibited profound increases in the release of epinephrine, which in turn led to increased production of anti-inflammatory mediators and subsequent dampening of the proinflammatory cytokine response elicited by intravenous administration of bacterial endotoxin. This study could have important implications for the treatment of a variety of conditions associated with excessive or persistent inflammation, especially autoimmune diseases in which therapies that antagonize proinflammatory cytokines have shown great benefit.
I personally think the so called “placebo effect” could more accurately be called the “righteous living effect” or, for those who’ve come to understand the meaning of spirituality, the “Holy Spirit effect”. I think it’s no coincidence that modern science is also, simultaneously, finally catching up to the wisdom of “breathe” (aka spirit) “science” and the multitude of enriching and beneficial effects it has (yoga, tai chi, simple meditation for mental clarity, etc)
I think the vast majority of ailments are caused by our lifestyles and our environments, which is an important part of this conversation. Also, I think we need to discover just how much control we have over our capacity to heal.
Don’t, it’s not worth it.
NASA constantly deceiving != the earth being flat
Flat Earth, in my estimation, is basically a “political wedge issue” of the conspiracy community. It has no real bearing on the lives of 99% of people, but so many just have to pick a side and fight over it.
Seriously. Nothing about your day to day life changes one way or the other, there’s no need to froth at the mouth over the topic, flattard or nasahole alike. Who cares?
Now that’s not to say, don’t spread facts and logical arguments about specific things, like the Van Allen radiation belts, or the {fake} moon landings, or whatever. But just dont tie your identity to the false totem of either “Flat Earth” or “Globe Earth”, it really has almost no bearing on your life, other than that which you give it, like any totem.
Thought the time was right, please post your suggestion for the next roundtable discussion, one subject per comment please (so that voting counting can be done without signature checks) and maybe some interesting topics will arise
