I am about as anti flat earth as you can imagine (while spending a lot of time watching their documentaries and letting people in forums argue the position). That said, even I can admit that, naively, when you look around it does look like you are on a flat plain (with topography). I can understand why various peoples throughout history, particularly in the distant past, believed that. I can even understand why people believe it today. It is just that, with an even marginally more refined view, there is no way to make a flat earth model work with the observations we have. (Sorry to the FEers here).

But the idea that we are inside a globe? Essentially standing "upside down" with our heads all pointed towards the center? And "the sky" is just space in the center of this sphere? How could you even have day and night? When the sun is "on the other side" it is just "a bit farther away." At midnight, the sun would be straight overhead but a bit smaller.

And yes. FEers love to show the high altitude balloons and the amateur rocket videos. So even they admit we can go to ~100,000 feet, or in the case of the Go Fast rocket, like 70 miles. Those videos clearly show a dark empty space, with a sun and sometimes a moon depending on its position. There is no "other side of the earth" that you can see. Just blackness.

So yes, I don't think my questions were unreasonable at all. The idea that we are inside the globe is totally ludicrous, even by the standards of typical "anti conventional globe / heliocentric" models. If you are going to claim this and call those who disagree "larval" you should be ready to answer questions.

I am about as anti flat earth as you can imagine (while spending a lot of time watching their documentaries and letting people in forums argue the position). That said, even I can admit that, naively, when you look around it does look like you are on a flat earth. I can understand why various peoples throughout history, particularly in the distant past, believed that. I can even understand why people believe it today. It is just that, with an even marginally more refined view, there is no way to make a flat earth model work with the observations we have. (Sorry to the FEers here).

But the idea that we are inside a globe? Essentially standing "upside down" with our heads all pointed towards the center? And "the sky" is just space in the center of this sphere? How could you even have day and night? When the sun is "on the other side" it is just "a bit farther away." At midnight, the sun would be straight overhead but a bit smaller.

And yes. FEers love to show the high altitude balloons and the amateur rocket videos. So even they admit we can go to ~100,000 feet, or in the case of the Go Fast rocket, like 70 miles. Those videos clearly show a dark empty space, with a sun and sometimes a moon depending on its position. There is no "other side of the earth" that you can see. Just blackness.

So yes, I don't think my questions were unreasonable at all. The idea that we are inside the globe is totally ludicrous, even by the standards of typical "anti conventional globe / heliocentric" models. If you are going to claim this and call those who disagree "larval" you should be ready to answer questions.