You can never prove it. Even doxxing nowadays might not prove it as well because they could create a complete fake digital persona with multiple accounts on social platforms with "friends" and contacts, family photos and such that would make it very difficult to know that it's fake. Moreover they have the capacity to fake IPs and such. The whole so called "AI"/Chatbots probably started to make it easier to Astroturf long time ago.
Think of it this way. How much would a single fighter jet cost? What about maintenance? Pilot? Logistics? Radars on the ground? etc...
Why do people on conspiracy platforms not consider that hundreds of millions of dollars have not been put into astroturfing? It's only the cost of few jets.
With this money you can hire hundreds of tech/communication people for many years. They can create tools, put strategies and manuals on how to subvert. Just get hold of 10 smart tech personnel, work them full time for couple of years and they can do massive astroturfing.
I have my ways (Not sharing them because they are also reading this) to guess that there is higher likelihood that a particular account is fake but I can never be certain. Though in some instances you can be almost certain when they leave no other option for their actions unless they are shills. I busted that network of shills on BitChute when one of the accounts made a blatant lie that may have otherwise passed on someone else but because I had real world information on the topic I knew he was lying and there was no other reason unless he was a shill.
What next? Should you stop posting or hanging out in this type of platforms? Perhaps. Perhaps they allow these echo chambers to let some steam out and prevent real world action and better monitor.
I personally use it while still knowing because I know that not everyone is a shill or bot. There are few real people who are reading this and that's for whom I am writing it (Many of the real people actually don't even create accounts or hardly engage). The enemy is spending millions upon millions to stop genuine content like this getting to anyone.
Also the few real posts here and there force all the fake accounts to move the bar up. Even shills like Alex Jones nowadays have to mention the Israelis because if they don't no one will take him seriously. It took years of real posts and comments from real people to move the bar up to where it is now.
You can never prove it. Even doxxing nowadays might not prove it as well because they could create a complete fake digital persona with multiple accounts on social platforms with "friends" and contacts, family photos and such that would make it very difficult to know that it's fake. Moreover they have the capacity to fake IPs and such. The whole so called "AI"/Chatbots probably started to make it easier to Astroturf long time ago.
Think of it this way. How much would a single fighter jet cost? What about maintenance? Pilot? Logistics? Radars on the ground? etc...
Why do people on conspiracy platforms not consider that hundreds of millions of dollars have not been put into astroturfing? It's only the cost of few jets.
With this money you can hire hundreds of tech/communication people for many years. They can create tools, put strategies and manuals on how to subvert. Just get hold of 10 smart tech personnel, work them full time for couple of years and they can do massive astroturfing.
I have my ways (Not sharing them because they are also reading this) to guess that there is higher likelihood that a particular account is fake but I can never be certain. Though in some instances you can be almost certain when they leave no other option for their actions unless they are shills. I busted that network of shills on BitChute when one of the accounts made a blatant lie that may have otherwise passed on someone else but because I had real world information on the topic I knew he was lying and there was no other reason unless he was a shill.
What next? Should you stop posting or hanging out in this type of platforms? Perhaps. Perhaps they allow these echo chambers to let some steam out and prevent real world action and better monitor.
I personally use it while still knowing because I know that not everyone is a shill or bot. There are few real people who are reading this and that's for whom I am writing it (Many of the real people actually don't even create accounts or hardly engage). The enemy is spending millions upon millions to stop genuine content like this getting to anyone.
Also the few real posts here and there force all the fake accounts to move the bar up. Even shills like Alex Jones nowadays have to mention the Israelis because if they don't no one will take seriously. It took years of real posts and comments from real people to move the bar up to where it is now.
You can never prove it. Even doxxing nowadays might not prove it as well because they could create a complete fake digital persona with multiple accounts on social platforms with "friends" and contacts, family photos and such that would make it very difficult to know that it's fake. Moreover they have the capacity to fake IPs and such. The whole so called "AI"/Chatbots probably started to make it easier to Astroturf long time ago.
Think of it this way. How much would a single fighter jet cost? What about maintenance? Pilot? Logistics? Radars on the ground? etc...
Why do people on conspiracy platforms not consider that hundreds of millions of dollars have not been put into astroturfing? It's only the cost of few jets.
With this money you can hire hundreds of tech/communication people for many years. They can create tools, put strategies and manuals on how to subvert. Just get hold of 10 smart tech personnel, work them full time for couple of years and they can do massive astroturfing.
I have my ways (Not sharing them because they are also reading this) to guess that there is higher likelihood that a particular account is fake but I can never be certain. Though in some instances you can be almost certain when they leave no other option for their actions unless they are shills. I busted that network of shills on BitChute when one of the accounts made a blatant lie that may have otherwise passed on someone else but because I had real world information on the topic I knew he was lying and there was no other reason unless he was a shill.
What next? Should you stop posting or hanging out in this type of platforms? Perhaps. Perhaps they allow these echo chambers to let some steam out and prevent real world action and better monitor.
I personally use it while still knowing because I know that not everyone is a shill or bot. There are few real people who are reading this and that's for whom I am writing it. And they are spending millions upon millions to stop it.
Also the few real posts here and there force all the fake accounts to move the bar up. Even shills like Alex Jones nowadays have to mention the Israelis because if they don't no one will take seriously. It took years of real posts and comments from real people to move the bar up to where it is now.