TALLESTSKIL You wrote a novel but the whole argument collapses the moment the actual words in the New Testament are read.

First. The word “Jew” was not invented a few centuries ago like you claimed. The New Testament itself uses the Greek word Ἰουδαῖος (Ioudaios). That word existed in the first century and refers to the Jewish people or Judeans. So the idea that translators invented the word recently to create confusion is simply false.

Second. Your claim that believing in the Messiah erases Jewish identity is destroyed by the apostle Paul the himself.

Romans 11:1 (Amplified Bible) “I say then, has God rejected and disowned His people? Certainly not! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.”

Notice the tense. Paul does not say “I used to be an Israelite.” He says I am. The Greek word is Ἰσραηλίτης (Israēlitēs), meaning a member of Israel. Paul believed Yeshua is the Messiah and still identified as an Israelite. That alone destroys the definition you are trying to force.

Third. Your claim that Galilee was only the tribe of Benjamin is simply made up. By the first century Galilee had multiple Israelite populations and the New Testament repeatedly refers to its inhabitants as Jews.

And since you seem bothered by the name I use, let’s address that directly. The name given to the Messiah was יֵשׁוּעַ (Yeshua).

Look in Matthew 1:21 (Amplified Bible) “She will give birth to a Son, and you shall name Him YESHUA [The LORD is salvation], for He will save His people from their sins.”

The Greek New Testament records the name as Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous) because the text was written in Greek. The English form “Jesus” came later through Greek and Latin. Using Yeshua is simply using the Hebrew name He was actually given. GOD gave Him that name sir.

And where did Yeshua grow up? John 1:45–46 (Amplified Bible) “Philip found Nathanael and told him, ‘We have found the One Moses wrote about in the Law, and about whom the prophets also wrote, Yeshua from Nazareth, the son of Joseph.’ Nathanael said to him, ‘Can anything good come out of Nazareth?’”

Nazareth is in Galilee. So the Messiah Himself grew up in the very region you are trying to separate from Jews.

You also quoted several passages condemning unbelief among some Jews in the first century. No one denies that happened. Scripture says plainly that some rejected the Messiah.

But the same apostle also says this.

Romans 11:28–29 (Amplified Bible) “From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake; but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are still beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.”

The Greek word for irrevocable is ἀμεταμέλητα (ametamelēta). It means not taken back. So the picture Paul gives is simple. Some branches were broken off because of unbelief. Gentiles were grafted in. The root is still Israel. God has not rejected His people. Period.

You told me to read the Bible.

That is exactly why your “Hebrews vs Jews” theory falls apart the moment the text is actually read.

TALLESTSKIL You wrote a novel but the whole argument collapses the moment the actual words in the New Testament are read.

First. The word “Jew” was not invented a few centuries ago like you claimed. The New Testament itself uses the Greek word Ἰουδαῖος (Ioudaios). That word existed in the first century and refers to the Jewish people or Judeans. So the idea that translators invented the word recently to create confusion is simply false.

Second. Your claim that believing in the Messiah erases Jewish identity is destroyed by the apostle Paul the himself.

Romans 11:1 (Amplified Bible) “I say then, has God rejected and disowned His people? Certainly not! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.”

Notice the tense. Paul does not say “I used to be an Israelite.” He says I am. The Greek word is Ἰσραηλίτης (Israēlitēs), meaning a member of Israel. Paul believed Yeshua is the Messiah and still identified as an Israelite. That alone destroys the definition you are trying to force.

Third. Your claim that Galilee was only the tribe of Benjamin is simply made up. By the first century Galilee had multiple Israelite populations and the New Testament repeatedly refers to its inhabitants as Jews.

And since you seem bothered by the name I use, let’s address that directly. The name given to the Messiah was יֵשׁוּעַ (Yeshua).

Look in Matthew 1:21 (Amplified Bible) “She will give birth to a Son, and you shall name Him YESHUA [The LORD is salvation], for He will save His people from their sins.”

The Greek New Testament records the name as Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous) because the text was written in Greek. The English form “Jesus” came later through Greek and Latin. Using Yeshua is simply using the Hebrew name He was actually given. GOD gave Him that name sir.

And where did Yeshua grow up? John 1:45–46 (Amplified Bible) “Philip found Nathanael and told him, ‘We have found the One Moses wrote about in the Law, and about whom the prophets also wrote, Yeshua from Nazareth, the son of Joseph.’ Nathanael said to him, ‘Can anything good come out of Nazareth?’”

Nazareth is in Galilee. So the Messiah Himself grew up in the very region you are trying to separate from Jews.

You also quoted several passages condemning unbelief among some Jews in the first century. No one denies that happened. Scripture says plainly that some rejected the Messiah.

But the same apostle also says this.

Romans 11:28–29 (Amplified Bible) “From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake; but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are still beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.”

The Greek word for irrevocable is ἀμεταμέλητα (ametamelēta). It means not taken back. So the picture Paul gives is simple. Some branches were broken off because of unbelief. Gentiles were grafted in. The root is still Israel. God has not rejected His people. Period.

You told me to read the Bible.

That is exactly why your “Hebrews vs Jews” theory falls apart the moment the text is actually read. SEE ya.

TALLESTSKIL You wrote a novel but the whole argument collapses the moment the actual words in the New Testament are read.

First. The word “Jew” was not invented a few centuries ago like you claimed. The New Testament itself uses the Greek word Ἰουδαῖος (Ioudaios). That word existed in the first century and refers to the Jewish people or Judeans. So the idea that translators invented the word recently to create confusion is simply false.

Second. Your claim that believing in the Messiah erases Jewish identity is destroyed by the apostle Paul the Apostle himself.

Romans 11:1 (Amplified Bible) “I say then, has God rejected and disowned His people? Certainly not! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.”

Notice the tense. Paul does not say “I used to be an Israelite.” He says I am. The Greek word is Ἰσραηλίτης (Israēlitēs), meaning a member of Israel. Paul believed Yeshua is the Messiah and still identified as an Israelite. That alone destroys the definition you are trying to force.

Third. Your claim that Galilee was only the tribe of Benjamin is simply made up. By the first century Galilee had multiple Israelite populations and the New Testament repeatedly refers to its inhabitants as Jews.

And since you seem bothered by the name I use, let’s address that directly. The name given to the Messiah was יֵשׁוּעַ (Yeshua).

Look in Matthew 1:21 (Amplified Bible) “She will give birth to a Son, and you shall name Him YESHUA [The LORD is salvation], for He will save His people from their sins.”

The Greek New Testament records the name as Ἰησοῦς (Iēsous) because the text was written in Greek. The English form “Jesus” came later through Greek and Latin. Using Yeshua is simply using the Hebrew name He was actually given. GOD gave Him that name sir.

And where did Yeshua grow up? John 1:45–46 (Amplified Bible) “Philip found Nathanael and told him, ‘We have found the One Moses wrote about in the Law, and about whom the prophets also wrote, Yeshua from Nazareth, the son of Joseph.’ Nathanael said to him, ‘Can anything good come out of Nazareth?’”

Nazareth is in Galilee. So the Messiah Himself grew up in the very region you are trying to separate from Jews.

You also quoted several passages condemning unbelief among some Jews in the first century. No one denies that happened. Scripture says plainly that some rejected the Messiah.

But the same apostle also says this.

Romans 11:28–29 (Amplified Bible) “From the standpoint of the gospel they are enemies for your sake; but from the standpoint of God’s choice they are still beloved for the sake of the fathers. For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.”

The Greek word for irrevocable is ἀμεταμέλητα (ametamelēta). It means not taken back. So the picture Paul gives is simple. Some branches were broken off because of unbelief. Gentiles were grafted in. The root is still Israel. God has not rejected His people. Period.

You told me to read the Bible.

That is exactly why your “Hebrews vs Jews” theory falls apart the moment the text is actually read. SEE ya.