I agree with a lot of what you say, including Catholicism. Those people are delusional because they may larp as being based and trad nationalist and anti-semites, but their papacy is completely liberal, progressivist, ecumenist, pro-skittles, condemning antisemitism, pushing socialism and open borders. And that's not just about this Pope or Francis or whoever - this has been going on since Vatican II and I've made many posts about it. There are even books by trad caths that explain how the Vatican was infiltrated and is controlled by the CIA (David Wemhoff).

My problem is that while your personal experience may be this and society is made up of individuals and is not an entity itself, it's still a numbers game. I'm a composer and musician and there's a saying that an orchestra is only as good as the weakest player in it. So even if you have the greatest virtuoso, if he plays in a weak orchestra the overall result will be subpar. The observable reality is that black people didn't fare well throughout history compared to other peoples in many important areas. Looking at statistics today, it's evident there are still a lot of problems with them regardless of the level of society they belong to.

Now it seems that the logical argument is whether these observations are to be attributed to ethnicity and racial differences or to environmental circumstances. It's reasonable to conclude that both factors play a role. The problem is that one side completely rejects the former and sees only circumstance as causing this discrepancy which makes their case much harder to prove.

I agree with a lot of what you say, including Catholicism. Those people are delusional because they may larp as being based and trad nationalist and anti-semites, but their papacy is completely liberal, progressivist, ecumenist, pro-skittles, condemning antisemitism, pushing socialism and open borders. And that's not just about this Pope or Francis or whoever - this has been going on since Vatican II and I've made many posts about it. There are even books by trad caths that explain how the Vatican was infiltrated and is controlled by the CIA (David Wemhoff).

My problem is that while your personal experience may be this and society is made up of individuals and is not an entity itself, it's still a numbers game. I'm a composer and musician and there's a saying that an orchestra is only as good as the weakest player in it. So even if you have the greatest virtuoso, if he plays in a weak orchestra the overall result will be subpar. The observable reality is that black people didn't fare well throughout history compared to other peoples in many important areas. Looking at statistics today, it's evident there are still a lot of problems with them regardless of the society they belong to.

Now it seems that the logical argument is whether these observations are to be attributed to ethnicity and racial differences or to environmental circumstances. It's reasonable to conclude that both factors play a role. The problem is that one side completely rejects the former and sees only circumstance as causing this discrepancy which makes their case much harder to prove.