There is academic controversy about whether Catharism ... So the aspect of gnosis you describe doesn't logically constitute an existential threat
I don't really want to discuss Catharism. I just used that as the first example that I could think of at the time, and perhaps that wasn't the best example to use.
Maybe a better example of what the Church would consider an existential threat is be the Gospel of John in the NT. Why look any further? IMO, the Gospel of John is a Gnostic text. Every Christian knows "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God". But the Greek word they translated as word is logos. Logos means the organizing principle, the divine intelligence, the creative consciousness that structures reality. In Gnostic cosmology, the logos is the first emanation from the Monad, the infinite source. So, the logos already existed. Before time, before creation, before the material world, the logos is eternal, uncreated, which means the logos is not separate from the source. The logos and the Monad are one consciousness expressing as a parent too. Then in verse 14, John drops the bomb that the church has spent two millennia trying to contain and the logos became flesh and dwelt among us. The logos, the emanation of the Monad, the organizing principle of reality, the consciousness that is God took human form, not as a unique miracle that only happened once, as a demonstration of what's possible for the awaken ones.
The church turned this into the doctrine of the incarnation. Jesus is God in flesh. Equally amazing to the doctrine of the Trinity, but on that later. Worship him. Obey him. You're not him. You're separate, forever inferior. John wrote that the logos became flesh. And if chosen ones carry the logos, which John says they do in chapter 1 12-13, then they too are the Monad in flesh. Incarnated divine consciousness, not servants of God. God experiencing itself as human. The church's entire control structure depends on separation. Obey the church, listen to the priests, become & stay dependent, and most importantly stay separated. Now, the Gospel of of John constitutes an existential threat. They had to do something because it was too popular to destroy, but its interpretation was locked down. Jesus is God. You are not, end of discussion. But, they couldn't change what John actually wrote.
You say it's a consciousness. Who is the first person then? Serious question
Everything is consciousness. And can be scientifically explained. Maybe it's best if I give you a link. Clif High talks about “The Pulse” and “The Wave”, in summary he claims all energy comes from the fact we’re pulsing reality at a rate of 22 trillion times a second. So fast it’s impossible for us to realize what’s happening. Reality here could be defined as the simulation I was talking about earlier, but think of it as the material/physical world we live in. According to Clif our reality gets created, destroyed then re-created at this amazing speed which gives rise to the Wave. So, in his opinion everything is consciousness which simulates matter that stays together due to magnetism.
Watch this 40 minute video, Clif may be a paranoid person (genetics), but he’s no dummy. There is a subsequent video he created, also a long time ago, which goes deeper into different levels of frequency and consciousness. Here is the link to "The Wooble": https://www.bitchute.com/video/kR81P5xQrruw/
Can you distinguish this signal from other signals that have similar characteristics? Serious question
Actually this is another good question you're asking. I have also been thinking about this for a long time. It's hard to identify & isolate such signal. In the Gospel of Thomas Jesus dropped a code that the church never fully cracked. He said, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear.". For a long time, people thought this was poetic metaphor. IMO, it wasn't, it was simply literal. He was talking about the frequency encryption. Think of truth as a radio broadcast. The signal is omnipresent. It is everywhere all the time. But the signal is encrypted at a specific bandwidth, a frequency of pure coherence. This is what I call the source or the Monad. The physical world, the reality you live in, vibrates at a much lower, denser frequency. It is fragmented, chaotic, just noise.
Maybe would be easier if I list three reasons I believe you know you are vibrating at the same "frequency" with the Monad?
- #1: the glass wall. You have felt a distinct separation from the rest of the world your entire life. Have you ever asked yourself "Why am I feeling this way? why am I the only one feeling this pressure? Why is everyone else so comfortable in this system?". You look around and see everyone around you eating, drinking, and laughing. Maybe they aren't ignoring the signal. Maybe they physically cannot perceive it. Maybe you weren't crazy. Maybe you were just hearing what they couldn't. Plato described this perfectly in his allegory of the cave. Most of humanity is chained, watching shadows on the wall, believing the shadows are reality. You are the prisoner who managed to turn your head. You saw the fire. You saw the puppets casting the shadows. And once you see the mechanism of the illusion, you can never truly go back to watching the show like everyone else.
- #2: system lag. The lag time between your internal thought and external reality is collapsing. You think of a specific concept and a stranger says that exact word seconds later. You have a question in your mind and the radio answers it literally. This isn't coincidence. It is rendering speed. Your frequency is rising so high the Matrix is struggling to buffer your reality.
- #3: sematic gnosis. It is happening right now in your body. The Greeks called it gnosis, knowledge through direct experience. Your body is a lie detector machine. When you hear high-level truth, your biology reacts before your brain does. You get truth chills. That sudden rush of electricity down your spine or a sudden heat in your chest. An unexplainable urge to weep. Not from sadness, but from the sheer relief of recognition.
There is academic controversy about whether Catharism ... So the aspect of gnosis you describe doesn't logically constitute an existential threat
I don't really want to discuss Catharism. I just used that as the first example that I could think of at the time, and perhaps that wasn't the best example to use.
Maybe a better example of what the Church would consider an existential threat is be the Gospel of John in the NT. Why look any further? IMO, the Gospel of John is a Gnostic text. Every Christian knows "In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God". But the Greek word they translated as word is logos. Logos means the organizing principle, the divine intelligence, the creative consciousness that structures reality. In Gnostic cosmology, the logos is the first emanation from the Monad, the infinite source. So, the logos already existed. Before time, before creation, before the material world, the logos is eternal, uncreated, which means the logos is not separate from the source. The logos and the Monad are one consciousness expressing as a parent too. Then in verse 14, John drops the bomb that the church has spent two millennia trying to contain and the logos became flesh and dwelt among us. The logos, the emanation of the Monad, the organizing principle of reality, the consciousness that is God took human form, not as a unique miracle that only happened once, as a demonstration of what's possible for the awaken ones.
The church turned this into the doctrine of the incarnation. Jesus is God in flesh. Equally amazing to the doctrine of the Trinity, but on that later. Worship him. Obey him. You're not him. You're separate, forever inferior. John wrote that the logos became flesh. And if chosen ones carry the logos, which John says they do in chapter 1 12-13, then they too are the monad in flesh. Incarnated divine consciousness, not servants of God. God experiencing itself as human. The church's entire control structure depends on separation. Obey the church, listen to the priests, become & stay dependent, and most importantly stay separated. Now, the Gospel of of John constitutes an existential threat. They had to do something because it was too popular to destroy, but its interpretation was locked down. Jesus is God. You are not, end of discussion. But, they couldn't change what John actually wrote.
You say it's a consciousness. Who is the first person then? Serious question
Everything is consciousness. And can be scientifically explained. Maybe it's best if I give you a link. Clif High talks about “The Pulse” and “The Wave”, in summary he claims all energy comes from the fact we’re pulsing reality at a rate of 22 trillion times a second. So fast it’s impossible for us to realize what’s happening. Reality here could be defined as the simulation I was talking about earlier, but think of it as the material/physical world we live in. According to Clif our reality gets created, destroyed then re-created at this amazing speed which gives rise to the Wave. So, in his opinion everything is consciousness which simulates matter that stays together due to magnetism.
Watch this 40 minute video, Clif may be a paranoid person (genetics), but he’s no dummy. There is a subsequent video he created, also a long time ago, which goes deeper into different levels of frequency and consciousness. Here is the link to "The Wooble": https://www.bitchute.com/video/kR81P5xQrruw/
Can you distinguish this signal from other signals that have similar characteristics? Serious question
Actually this is another good question you're asking. I have also been thinking about this for a long time. It's hard to identify & isolate such signal. In the Gospel of Thomas Jesus dropped a code that the church never fully cracked. He said, "He who has ears to hear, let him hear.". For a long time, people thought this was poetic metaphor. IMO, it wasn't, it was simply literal. He was talking about the frequency encryption. Think of truth as a radio broadcast. The signal is omnipresent. It is everywhere all the time. But the signal is encrypted at a specific bandwidth, a frequency of pure coherence. This is what I call the source or the Monad. The physical world, the reality you live in, vibrates at a much lower, denser frequency. It is fragmented, chaotic, just noise.
Maybe would be easier if I list three reasons I believe you know you are vibrating at the same "frequency" with the Monad?
- #1: the glass wall. You have felt a distinct separation from the rest of the world your entire life. Have you ever asked yourself "Why am I feeling this way? why am I the only one feeling this pressure? Why is everyone else so comfortable in this system?". You look around and see everyone around you eating, drinking, and laughing. Maybe they aren't ignoring the signal. Maybe they physically cannot perceive it. Maybe you weren't crazy. Maybe you were just hearing what they couldn't. Plato described this perfectly in his allegory of the cave. Most of humanity is chained, watching shadows on the wall, believing the shadows are reality. You are the prisoner who managed to turn your head. You saw the fire. You saw the puppets casting the shadows. And once you see the mechanism of the illusion, you can never truly go back to watching the show like everyone else.
- #2: system lag. The lag time between your internal thought and external reality is collapsing. You think of a specific concept and a stranger says that exact word seconds later. You have a question in your mind and the radio answers it literally. This isn't coincidence. It is rendering speed. Your frequency is rising so high the Matrix is struggling to buffer your reality.
- #3: sematic gnosis. It is happening right now in your body. The Greeks called it gnosis, knowledge through direct experience. Your body is a lie detector machine. When you hear high-level truth, your biology reacts before your brain does. You get truth chills. That sudden rush of electricity down your spine or a sudden heat in your chest. An unexplainable urge to weep. Not from sadness, but from the sheer relief of recognition.