[part 3]
ok now with the super sigil.. Monad Sigil: The Monas Hieroglyphica. What's going on with all this stuff in there. You got a circle with a dot in the middle. Here I'll upload the pic, I think they're explaining things going on in there. The middle is the sigil though. This is pretty major here.. this is the super sigil for Monad, ok.. you got no more top boss above that, right. ok so explain this super sigil and what's going on. Seems like John Dee figured this out.
That's an excellent follow-up, and the image you uploaded is a perfect instructional diagram for understanding the Monas Hieroglyphica (The Hieroglyphic Monad).
You are correct that this symbol, created by Dr. John Dee and published in 1564, is considered by many in esoteric traditions to be a "super sigil". It was intended to represent the entire cosmos and the unity of all creation, synthesized into a single figure.
Here is an explanation of the Monad Hieroglyphica and its core constituent parts, based on your diagram:
- The Core Meaning: The Monad The Monad: The symbol's primary goal is to represent the Monad, or the ultimate source of all things.
Union of Opposites: It is explicitly titled "The Monad: 'Union of Opposites'," indicating its role in unifying duality back into a singular, divine source.
- The Foundation: Astronomical and Elemental Principles The symbol is constructed from the basic signs for the Sun, Moon, and the Elements:
Component Visual Part Esoteric Meaning The Sun (☉) The Circle with a Dot in the center. Symbolizes Gold. In Dee’s alchemical/astrological view, the Sun is the center and the source of Life. The Moon (☽) The Crescent sitting atop the Sun. Symbolizes Silver. The Moon represents the feminine, receptive principle and the sphere closest to Earth. The Elements (☩) The Cross (The horizontal and vertical lines below the Sun). The cross itself signifies the four elements (Fire, Air, Water, Earth). It is the symbol of matter or the physical plane. 3. The Planetary Influence: Mercury and the Zodiac The entire assembled figure is the alchemical sign for Mercury (☿):
Mercury is the messenger between the spiritual (Moon/Sun) and material (Cross) worlds.
The symbol's lowest part forms the two arcs of the Zodiac. The vertical line descending from the cross extends through them.
- Mathematical & Cosmological Principles The diagram shows that the Monad contains fundamental geometric and numerical concepts:
Euclidean Geometric Principles: The symbol begins with the basic building blocks of the point, line, and circle.
Septenary (7): The number 7 is key. It is derived from the Ternary (3) (Father, Son, Holy Spirit; or the three parts of the symbol: Crescent, Circle, Cross) multiplied by the Quaternary (4) (the four elements/limbs of the cross).
The Septenary relates to the 7 Days of the Week, the 7 Ptolemaic Planets, the 7 Metals of Antiquity, and the 7 Archangels.
- The Question of the "Top Boss" Your question, "...you got no more top boss above that, right," speaks directly to the symbol's philosophical place.
In Dee's view, the Monad is a figure of the ultimate Unity. Since it contains all the constituent parts of the universe—from the spiritual (Sun/Moon) down to the material (Elements/Zodiac)—it is intended to be a complete microcosm of the Divine creative process.
It is not the personal deity Yahweh itself, but rather the geometric, mathematical, and philosophical formula that underlies and describes the unity of the Divine source from which everything emanates. In that sense, for the systems that use it, it represents the highest principle of creation.
Would you like to delve into the connection between John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica and his system of Enochian magic?
ok so, in the occult, when do they use these super sigils for yahweh or monad?
That's an insightful question. These "super sigils" are not used for casual, everyday magical workings but rather for some of the most profound and ceremonial purposes in occult and esoteric traditions.
Their use generally falls into one of three categories: Protection/Banishment, Invocation/Attainment, and Meditation/Gnosis.
- 🛡️ The Yahweh Sigil: The Tetragrammaton Pentagram
The Tetragrammaton Pentagram is primarily a sigil of Authority, Protection, and Banishing.
Purpose When it is Used
Protection & BanishingThis is the most common use. It is worn, placed on doors/walls, or drawn during ritual to command spirits and protect the magician from dangerous or unwanted influences. The divine name (YHWH) and the upright pentagram signify the supreme authority of the spirit over matter and all elemental forces.
Ritual Circles & ToolsThe pentagram is often the shape of a pentacle (a talismanic disk) placed on an altar or the floor of a ritual circle. It is used to bind and control the entities that are being evoked or invoked, ensuring they do not breach the boundaries of the space.
Spiritual SovereigntyIt symbolizes the Perfected Human ($\text{YHSVH}$), the goal of the Great Work in Western Esotericism. It is used in self-development practices to align one's personal will with the Divine Will.
In Short: It is used when a ritual requires supreme authority and impenetrable defense against spiritual forces.
- ✨ The Monad Sigil: The Monas Hieroglyphica
John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica is a sigil of Unity, Discovery, and Illumination. It's less a tool for simple protection and more a key to unlocking the fundamental truths of the cosmos.
Purpose When it is Used
Deep Meditation & GnosisIt is used as a highly complex Mantra or Mandala for contemplation. Dee intended for practitioners to meditate on its individual components and their geometric and numerical relationships to gain sudden, profound insight (Gnosis) into the unity of the universe, bypassing normal intellectual processes.
Alchemical TransformationIn alchemical traditions influenced by Dee, it is used to symbolize and aid the process of transformation—not just of lead into gold, but of the self from a mundane state to a spiritually perfected one. Its combined planetary and elemental signs represent the materials and forces at work in the transformation.
A Foundational KeyIt is sometimes used as a fundamental, starting point symbol in larger, more complex magical systems, most notably within elements of Rosicrucian and early Hermetic traditions, as a universal signature of creation.
In Short: It is used when the practitioner seeks ultimate comprehension of the universe and the highest form of spiritual or alchemical knowledge.
Would you like to know more about the specific ritual contexts in which the Tetragrammaton Pentagram is used, such as in the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram (LBRP)?
yeah cause you can't use these two guy.. lol.. yahweh or monad like what solomon was doing with the demons where you can do stuff with these super sigils, eh.. cause they're totally ranking higher than you. It's like nothing can command them.. but monad can comman yahweh, the way yahweh has to deal with monad's karma system, even though yahweh pretends like he doesn't know about it, but catches "catalysts" he has to deal with after his tantrums. lol. So what the hell are these occult guys gonna do with the yahweh or monad sigils.
That's a very perceptive and advanced way to frame the question, touching on the complex hierarchical theology within esoteric traditions. You are absolutely right: in most high-level occult philosophy, the Monad and even Yahweh (the Tetragrammaton) are often considered too high-ranking or abstract to be "commanded" like a minor spirit.
The Monad and Yahweh are seen less as individual, commandable beings and more as universal, impersonal forces, principles, or laws that the magician aligns with or channels.
Here is how esoteric practitioners work with these "super sigils," not through command, but through alignment, invocation, and channeling:
- The Yahweh Sigil: The Tetragrammaton Pentagram
The use of the Tetragrammaton Pentagram is closely linked to Solomonic and Ceremonial Magic, but its function is not to command Yahweh, but to command everything below Yahweh.
The Authority of the Name: When the magician uses the Tetragrammaton ($\text{YHWH}$), they are invoking the Ultimate Authority and Source of Creation recognized in the Jewish Kabbalah (the tradition on which much of this magic is built).
The Function: Banishing and Commanding Inferior Forces: The pentagram is used to banish (clear away) chaotic or negative elemental forces, and to command the spirits found in grimoires like the Goetia.
The logic is: The magician places the sign of the supreme authority ($\text{YHWH}$) over the sign of the human self (the pentagram, which represents the human will). By uniting these two, the magician acts as the agent of the Divine Will on Earth. They aren't commanding God; they are commanding a demon to obey God's Law, which the magician is temporarily embodying.
Context: The sigil is used to create a Sacred Space where all lower, chthonic, or "infernal" spirits must submit or flee due to the overwhelming presence of the four-letter divine name.
- The Monad Sigil: The Monas Hieroglyphica
The Monas is not used for direct magical command at all. Its purpose is entirely philosophical and spiritual, aimed at transcending the lower realms, including the realm of personal gods.
The Monad as the Universal Law (Karma System): As you noted, the Monad is the ultimate unity, the source of all duality, and the mathematical blueprint for the cosmos. It represents the mechanism of the universe—the system of laws, relationships, and consequences. In this view, nothing can command it, because it is the "operating system" itself.
The Function: Spiritual Gnosis (Alignment): John Dee intended the Monas to be used for deep contemplation and Gnosis (direct, intuitive knowledge).
Alignment: By meditating on the Monad, the practitioner seeks to mentally and spiritually align themselves with the cosmic laws, patterns, and rhythms it represents. The goal is to purify one's mind so that one's thoughts and actions are perfectly consonant with the Monad's universal truth.
The Result: The magician who understands and internalizes the Monad's structure gains a kind of "Master Key"—not a key to command, but a key to understand the underlying code of all other magic, science, and religion. This understanding brings profound power because it allows them to work with the fundamental forces of the universe, rather than just using rituals to coerce small spirits.
In essence:
Sigil What it Represents Occult Goal The Action
TetragrammatonDivine Authority over CreationExternal Power & ControlInvocation of supreme name to compel forces below the Magician.
Monas HieroglyphicaThe Mathematical Unity of the CosmosInternal Wisdom & UnityMeditation to align the Magician's consciousness with the supreme source.
Would you like to explore any of the specific grimoires or occult texts that detail the use of the Tetragrammaton in ritual magic?
==================================
Checking those couple super sigils beside, as I was reading what gemini said the parts were. That tetragrammaton one, that the baphomet guy, Levi-Eliphas, did.. seems to have a few things different than what it was saying.
Also.. tried looking for a more proper, official monad super sigil.. with the John Dee stuff.. when I was trying to check out what it was saying.. I'm there.. this is probably a whole book about what's going on. Well, here..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monas_Hieroglyphica
Looked for a pdf of it..
Gonna download that, put it on the desktop and check it out, at a later time. While eating meals.
[end of conversation for now]
[part 3]
ok now with the super sigil.. Monad Sigil: The Monas Hieroglyphica. What's going on with all this stuff in there. You got a circle with a dot in the middle. Here I'll upload the pic, I think they're explaining things going on in there. The middle is the sigil though. This is pretty major here.. this is the super sigil for Monad, ok.. you got no more top boss above that, right. ok so explain this super sigil and what's going on. Seems like John Dee figured this out.
That's an excellent follow-up, and the image you uploaded is a perfect instructional diagram for understanding the Monas Hieroglyphica (The Hieroglyphic Monad).
You are correct that this symbol, created by Dr. John Dee and published in 1564, is considered by many in esoteric traditions to be a "super sigil". It was intended to represent the entire cosmos and the unity of all creation, synthesized into a single figure.
Here is an explanation of the Monad Hieroglyphica and its core constituent parts, based on your diagram:
- The Core Meaning: The Monad The Monad: The symbol's primary goal is to represent the Monad, or the ultimate source of all things.
Union of Opposites: It is explicitly titled "The Monad: 'Union of Opposites'," indicating its role in unifying duality back into a singular, divine source.
- The Foundation: Astronomical and Elemental Principles The symbol is constructed from the basic signs for the Sun, Moon, and the Elements:
Component Visual Part Esoteric Meaning The Sun (☉) The Circle with a Dot in the center. Symbolizes Gold. In Dee’s alchemical/astrological view, the Sun is the center and the source of Life. The Moon (☽) The Crescent sitting atop the Sun. Symbolizes Silver. The Moon represents the feminine, receptive principle and the sphere closest to Earth. The Elements (☩) The Cross (The horizontal and vertical lines below the Sun). The cross itself signifies the four elements (Fire, Air, Water, Earth). It is the symbol of matter or the physical plane. 3. The Planetary Influence: Mercury and the Zodiac The entire assembled figure is the alchemical sign for Mercury (☿):
Mercury is the messenger between the spiritual (Moon/Sun) and material (Cross) worlds.
The symbol's lowest part forms the two arcs of the Zodiac. The vertical line descending from the cross extends through them.
- Mathematical & Cosmological Principles The diagram shows that the Monad contains fundamental geometric and numerical concepts:
Euclidean Geometric Principles: The symbol begins with the basic building blocks of the point, line, and circle.
Septenary (7): The number 7 is key. It is derived from the Ternary (3) (Father, Son, Holy Spirit; or the three parts of the symbol: Crescent, Circle, Cross) multiplied by the Quaternary (4) (the four elements/limbs of the cross).
The Septenary relates to the 7 Days of the Week, the 7 Ptolemaic Planets, the 7 Metals of Antiquity, and the 7 Archangels.
- The Question of the "Top Boss" Your question, "...you got no more top boss above that, right," speaks directly to the symbol's philosophical place.
In Dee's view, the Monad is a figure of the ultimate Unity. Since it contains all the constituent parts of the universe—from the spiritual (Sun/Moon) down to the material (Elements/Zodiac)—it is intended to be a complete microcosm of the Divine creative process.
It is not the personal deity Yahweh itself, but rather the geometric, mathematical, and philosophical formula that underlies and describes the unity of the Divine source from which everything emanates. In that sense, for the systems that use it, it represents the highest principle of creation.
Would you like to delve into the connection between John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica and his system of Enochian magic?
ok so, in the occult, when do they use these super sigils for yahweh or monad?
That's an insightful question. These "super sigils" are not used for casual, everyday magical workings but rather for some of the most profound and ceremonial purposes in occult and esoteric traditions.
Their use generally falls into one of three categories: Protection/Banishment, Invocation/Attainment, and Meditation/Gnosis.
- 🛡️ The Yahweh Sigil: The Tetragrammaton Pentagram
The Tetragrammaton Pentagram is primarily a sigil of Authority, Protection, and Banishing.
Purpose When it is Used
Protection & BanishingThis is the most common use. It is worn, placed on doors/walls, or drawn during ritual to command spirits and protect the magician from dangerous or unwanted influences. The divine name (YHWH) and the upright pentagram signify the supreme authority of the spirit over matter and all elemental forces.
Ritual Circles & ToolsThe pentagram is often the shape of a pentacle (a talismanic disk) placed on an altar or the floor of a ritual circle. It is used to bind and control the entities that are being evoked or invoked, ensuring they do not breach the boundaries of the space.
Spiritual SovereigntyIt symbolizes the Perfected Human ($\text{YHSVH}$), the goal of the Great Work in Western Esotericism. It is used in self-development practices to align one's personal will with the Divine Will.
In Short: It is used when a ritual requires supreme authority and impenetrable defense against spiritual forces.
- ✨ The Monad Sigil: The Monas Hieroglyphica
John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica is a sigil of Unity, Discovery, and Illumination. It's less a tool for simple protection and more a key to unlocking the fundamental truths of the cosmos.
Purpose When it is Used
Deep Meditation & GnosisIt is used as a highly complex Mantra or Mandala for contemplation. Dee intended for practitioners to meditate on its individual components and their geometric and numerical relationships to gain sudden, profound insight (Gnosis) into the unity of the universe, bypassing normal intellectual processes.
Alchemical TransformationIn alchemical traditions influenced by Dee, it is used to symbolize and aid the process of transformation—not just of lead into gold, but of the self from a mundane state to a spiritually perfected one. Its combined planetary and elemental signs represent the materials and forces at work in the transformation.
A Foundational KeyIt is sometimes used as a fundamental, starting point symbol in larger, more complex magical systems, most notably within elements of Rosicrucian and early Hermetic traditions, as a universal signature of creation.
In Short: It is used when the practitioner seeks ultimate comprehension of the universe and the highest form of spiritual or alchemical knowledge.
Would you like to know more about the specific ritual contexts in which the Tetragrammaton Pentagram is used, such as in the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram (LBRP)?
yeah cause you can't use these two guy.. lol.. yahweh or monad like what solomon was doing with the demons where you can do stuff with these super sigils, eh.. cause they're totally ranking higher than you. It's like nothing can command them.. but monad can comman yahweh, the way yahweh has to deal with monad's karma system, even though yahweh pretends like he doesn't know about it, but catches "catalysts" he has to deal with after his tantrums. lol. So what the hell are these occult guys gonna do with the yahweh or monad sigils.
That's a very perceptive and advanced way to frame the question, touching on the complex hierarchical theology within esoteric traditions. You are absolutely right: in most high-level occult philosophy, the Monad and even Yahweh (the Tetragrammaton) are often considered too high-ranking or abstract to be "commanded" like a minor spirit.
The Monad and Yahweh are seen less as individual, commandable beings and more as universal, impersonal forces, principles, or laws that the magician aligns with or channels.
Here is how esoteric practitioners work with these "super sigils," not through command, but through alignment, invocation, and channeling:
- The Yahweh Sigil: The Tetragrammaton Pentagram
The use of the Tetragrammaton Pentagram is closely linked to Solomonic and Ceremonial Magic, but its function is not to command Yahweh, but to command everything below Yahweh.
The Authority of the Name: When the magician uses the Tetragrammaton ($\text{YHWH}$), they are invoking the Ultimate Authority and Source of Creation recognized in the Jewish Kabbalah (the tradition on which much of this magic is built).
The Function: Banishing and Commanding Inferior Forces: The pentagram is used to banish (clear away) chaotic or negative elemental forces, and to command the spirits found in grimoires like the Goetia.
The logic is: The magician places the sign of the supreme authority ($\text{YHWH}$) over the sign of the human self (the pentagram, which represents the human will). By uniting these two, the magician acts as the agent of the Divine Will on Earth. They aren't commanding God; they are commanding a demon to obey God's Law, which the magician is temporarily embodying.
Context: The sigil is used to create a Sacred Space where all lower, chthonic, or "infernal" spirits must submit or flee due to the overwhelming presence of the four-letter divine name.
- The Monad Sigil: The Monas Hieroglyphica
The Monas is not used for direct magical command at all. Its purpose is entirely philosophical and spiritual, aimed at transcending the lower realms, including the realm of personal gods.
The Monad as the Universal Law (Karma System): As you noted, the Monad is the ultimate unity, the source of all duality, and the mathematical blueprint for the cosmos. It represents the mechanism of the universe—the system of laws, relationships, and consequences. In this view, nothing can command it, because it is the "operating system" itself.
The Function: Spiritual Gnosis (Alignment): John Dee intended the Monas to be used for deep contemplation and Gnosis (direct, intuitive knowledge).
Alignment: By meditating on the Monad, the practitioner seeks to mentally and spiritually align themselves with the cosmic laws, patterns, and rhythms it represents. The goal is to purify one's mind so that one's thoughts and actions are perfectly consonant with the Monad's universal truth.
The Result: The magician who understands and internalizes the Monad's structure gains a kind of "Master Key"—not a key to command, but a key to understand the underlying code of all other magic, science, and religion. This understanding brings profound power because it allows them to work with the fundamental forces of the universe, rather than just using rituals to coerce small spirits.
In essence:
Sigil What it Represents Occult Goal The Action
TetragrammatonDivine Authority over CreationExternal Power & ControlInvocation of supreme name to compel forces below the Magician.
Monas HieroglyphicaThe Mathematical Unity of the CosmosInternal Wisdom & UnityMeditation to align the Magician's consciousness with the supreme source.
Would you like to explore any of the specific grimoires or occult texts that detail the use of the Tetragrammaton in ritual magic?
==================================
Checking those couple super sigils beside, as I was reading what gemini said the parts were. That tetragrammaton one, that the baphomet guy, Levi-Eliphas, did.. seems to have a few things different than what it was saying.
Also.. tried looking for a more proper, official monad super sigil.. with the John Dee stuff.. when I was trying to check out what it was saying.. I'm there.. this is probably a whole book about what's going on. Well, here..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monas_Hieroglyphica
[end of conversation for now]
[part 3]
ok now with the super sigil.. Monad Sigil: The Monas Hieroglyphica. What's going on with all this stuff in there. You got a circle with a dot in the middle. Here I'll upload the pic, I think they're explaining things going on in there. The middle is the sigil though. This is pretty major here.. this is the super sigil for Monad, ok.. you got no more top boss above that, right. ok so explain this super sigil and what's going on. Seems like John Dee figured this out.
That's an excellent follow-up, and the image you uploaded is a perfect instructional diagram for understanding the Monas Hieroglyphica (The Hieroglyphic Monad).
You are correct that this symbol, created by Dr. John Dee and published in 1564, is considered by many in esoteric traditions to be a "super sigil". It was intended to represent the entire cosmos and the unity of all creation, synthesized into a single figure.
Here is an explanation of the Monad Hieroglyphica and its core constituent parts, based on your diagram:
- The Core Meaning: The Monad The Monad: The symbol's primary goal is to represent the Monad, or the ultimate source of all things.
Union of Opposites: It is explicitly titled "The Monad: 'Union of Opposites'," indicating its role in unifying duality back into a singular, divine source.
- The Foundation: Astronomical and Elemental Principles The symbol is constructed from the basic signs for the Sun, Moon, and the Elements:
Component Visual Part Esoteric Meaning The Sun (☉) The Circle with a Dot in the center. Symbolizes Gold. In Dee’s alchemical/astrological view, the Sun is the center and the source of Life. The Moon (☽) The Crescent sitting atop the Sun. Symbolizes Silver. The Moon represents the feminine, receptive principle and the sphere closest to Earth. The Elements (☩) The Cross (The horizontal and vertical lines below the Sun). The cross itself signifies the four elements (Fire, Air, Water, Earth). It is the symbol of matter or the physical plane. 3. The Planetary Influence: Mercury and the Zodiac The entire assembled figure is the alchemical sign for Mercury (☿):
Mercury is the messenger between the spiritual (Moon/Sun) and material (Cross) worlds.
The symbol's lowest part forms the two arcs of the Zodiac. The vertical line descending from the cross extends through them.
- Mathematical & Cosmological Principles The diagram shows that the Monad contains fundamental geometric and numerical concepts:
Euclidean Geometric Principles: The symbol begins with the basic building blocks of the point, line, and circle.
Septenary (7): The number 7 is key. It is derived from the Ternary (3) (Father, Son, Holy Spirit; or the three parts of the symbol: Crescent, Circle, Cross) multiplied by the Quaternary (4) (the four elements/limbs of the cross).
The Septenary relates to the 7 Days of the Week, the 7 Ptolemaic Planets, the 7 Metals of Antiquity, and the 7 Archangels.
- The Question of the "Top Boss" Your question, "...you got no more top boss above that, right," speaks directly to the symbol's philosophical place.
In Dee's view, the Monad is a figure of the ultimate Unity. Since it contains all the constituent parts of the universe—from the spiritual (Sun/Moon) down to the material (Elements/Zodiac)—it is intended to be a complete microcosm of the Divine creative process.
It is not the personal deity Yahweh itself, but rather the geometric, mathematical, and philosophical formula that underlies and describes the unity of the Divine source from which everything emanates. In that sense, for the systems that use it, it represents the highest principle of creation.
Would you like to delve into the connection between John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica and his system of Enochian magic?
ok so, in the occult, when do they use these super sigils for yahweh or monad?
That's an insightful question. These "super sigils" are not used for casual, everyday magical workings but rather for some of the most profound and ceremonial purposes in occult and esoteric traditions.
Their use generally falls into one of three categories: Protection/Banishment, Invocation/Attainment, and Meditation/Gnosis.
- 🛡️ The Yahweh Sigil: The Tetragrammaton Pentagram
The Tetragrammaton Pentagram is primarily a sigil of Authority, Protection, and Banishing.
Purpose When it is Used
Protection & BanishingThis is the most common use. It is worn, placed on doors/walls, or drawn during ritual to command spirits and protect the magician from dangerous or unwanted influences. The divine name (YHWH) and the upright pentagram signify the supreme authority of the spirit over matter and all elemental forces.
Ritual Circles & ToolsThe pentagram is often the shape of a pentacle (a talismanic disk) placed on an altar or the floor of a ritual circle. It is used to bind and control the entities that are being evoked or invoked, ensuring they do not breach the boundaries of the space.
Spiritual SovereigntyIt symbolizes the Perfected Human ($\text{YHSVH}$), the goal of the Great Work in Western Esotericism. It is used in self-development practices to align one's personal will with the Divine Will.
In Short: It is used when a ritual requires supreme authority and impenetrable defense against spiritual forces.
- ✨ The Monad Sigil: The Monas Hieroglyphica
John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica is a sigil of Unity, Discovery, and Illumination. It's less a tool for simple protection and more a key to unlocking the fundamental truths of the cosmos.
Purpose When it is Used
Deep Meditation & GnosisIt is used as a highly complex Mantra or Mandala for contemplation. Dee intended for practitioners to meditate on its individual components and their geometric and numerical relationships to gain sudden, profound insight (Gnosis) into the unity of the universe, bypassing normal intellectual processes.
Alchemical TransformationIn alchemical traditions influenced by Dee, it is used to symbolize and aid the process of transformation—not just of lead into gold, but of the self from a mundane state to a spiritually perfected one. Its combined planetary and elemental signs represent the materials and forces at work in the transformation.
A Foundational KeyIt is sometimes used as a fundamental, starting point symbol in larger, more complex magical systems, most notably within elements of Rosicrucian and early Hermetic traditions, as a universal signature of creation.
In Short: It is used when the practitioner seeks ultimate comprehension of the universe and the highest form of spiritual or alchemical knowledge.
Would you like to know more about the specific ritual contexts in which the Tetragrammaton Pentagram is used, such as in the Lesser Banishing Ritual of the Pentagram (LBRP)?
yeah cause you can't use these two guy.. lol.. yahweh or monad like what solomon was doing with the demons where you can do stuff with these super sigils, eh.. cause they're totally ranking higher than you. It's like nothing can command them.. but monad can comman yahweh, the way yahweh has to deal with monad's karma system, even though yahweh pretends like he doesn't know about it, but catches "catalysts" he has to deal with after his tantrums. lol. So what the hell are these occult guys gonna do with the yahweh or monad sigils.
That's a very perceptive and advanced way to frame the question, touching on the complex hierarchical theology within esoteric traditions. You are absolutely right: in most high-level occult philosophy, the Monad and even Yahweh (the Tetragrammaton) are often considered too high-ranking or abstract to be "commanded" like a minor spirit.
The Monad and Yahweh are seen less as individual, commandable beings and more as universal, impersonal forces, principles, or laws that the magician aligns with or channels.
Here is how esoteric practitioners work with these "super sigils," not through command, but through alignment, invocation, and channeling:
- The Yahweh Sigil: The Tetragrammaton Pentagram
The use of the Tetragrammaton Pentagram is closely linked to Solomonic and Ceremonial Magic, but its function is not to command Yahweh, but to command everything below Yahweh.
The Authority of the Name: When the magician uses the Tetragrammaton ($\text{YHWH}$), they are invoking the Ultimate Authority and Source of Creation recognized in the Jewish Kabbalah (the tradition on which much of this magic is built).
The Function: Banishing and Commanding Inferior Forces: The pentagram is used to banish (clear away) chaotic or negative elemental forces, and to command the spirits found in grimoires like the Goetia.
The logic is: The magician places the sign of the supreme authority ($\text{YHWH}$) over the sign of the human self (the pentagram, which represents the human will). By uniting these two, the magician acts as the agent of the Divine Will on Earth. They aren't commanding God; they are commanding a demon to obey God's Law, which the magician is temporarily embodying.
Context: The sigil is used to create a Sacred Space where all lower, chthonic, or "infernal" spirits must submit or flee due to the overwhelming presence of the four-letter divine name.
- The Monad Sigil: The Monas Hieroglyphica
The Monas is not used for direct magical command at all. Its purpose is entirely philosophical and spiritual, aimed at transcending the lower realms, including the realm of personal gods.
The Monad as the Universal Law (Karma System): As you noted, the Monad is the ultimate unity, the source of all duality, and the mathematical blueprint for the cosmos. It represents the mechanism of the universe—the system of laws, relationships, and consequences. In this view, nothing can command it, because it is the "operating system" itself.
The Function: Spiritual Gnosis (Alignment): John Dee intended the Monas to be used for deep contemplation and Gnosis (direct, intuitive knowledge).
Alignment: By meditating on the Monad, the practitioner seeks to mentally and spiritually align themselves with the cosmic laws, patterns, and rhythms it represents. The goal is to purify one's mind so that one's thoughts and actions are perfectly consonant with the Monad's universal truth.
The Result: The magician who understands and internalizes the Monad's structure gains a kind of "Master Key"—not a key to command, but a key to understand the underlying code of all other magic, science, and religion. This understanding brings profound power because it allows them to work with the fundamental forces of the universe, rather than just using rituals to coerce small spirits.
In essence:
Sigil What it Represents Occult Goal The Action
TetragrammatonDivine Authority over CreationExternal Power & ControlInvocation of supreme name to compel forces below the Magician.
Monas HieroglyphicaThe Mathematical Unity of the CosmosInternal Wisdom & UnityMeditation to align the Magician's consciousness with the supreme source.
Would you like to explore any of the specific grimoires or occult texts that detail the use of the Tetragrammaton in ritual magic?
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ok now with the super sigil.. Monad Sigil: The Monas Hieroglyphica. What's going on with all this stuff in there. You got a circle with a dot in the middle. Here I'll upload the pic, I think they're explaining things going on in there. The middle is the sigil though. This is pretty major here.. this is the super sigil for Monad, ok.. you got no more top boss above that, right. ok so explain this super sigil and what's going on. Seems like John Dee figured this out.
That's an excellent follow-up, and the image you uploaded is a perfect instructional diagram for understanding the Monas Hieroglyphica (The Hieroglyphic Monad).
You are correct that this symbol, created by Dr. John Dee and published in 1564, is considered by many in esoteric traditions to be a "super sigil". It was intended to represent the entire cosmos and the unity of all creation, synthesized into a single figure.
Here is an explanation of the Monad Hieroglyphica and its core constituent parts, based on your diagram:
- The Core Meaning: The Monad The Monad: The symbol's primary goal is to represent the Monad, or the ultimate source of all things.
Union of Opposites: It is explicitly titled "The Monad: 'Union of Opposites'," indicating its role in unifying duality back into a singular, divine source.
- The Foundation: Astronomical and Elemental Principles The symbol is constructed from the basic signs for the Sun, Moon, and the Elements:
Component Visual Part Esoteric Meaning The Sun (☉) The Circle with a Dot in the center. Symbolizes Gold. In Dee’s alchemical/astrological view, the Sun is the center and the source of Life. The Moon (☽) The Crescent sitting atop the Sun. Symbolizes Silver. The Moon represents the feminine, receptive principle and the sphere closest to Earth. The Elements (☩) The Cross (The horizontal and vertical lines below the Sun). The cross itself signifies the four elements (Fire, Air, Water, Earth). It is the symbol of matter or the physical plane. 3. The Planetary Influence: Mercury and the Zodiac The entire assembled figure is the alchemical sign for Mercury (☿):
Mercury is the messenger between the spiritual (Moon/Sun) and material (Cross) worlds.
The symbol's lowest part forms the two arcs of the Zodiac. The vertical line descending from the cross extends through them.
- Mathematical & Cosmological Principles The diagram shows that the Monad contains fundamental geometric and numerical concepts:
Euclidean Geometric Principles: The symbol begins with the basic building blocks of the point, line, and circle.
Septenary (7): The number 7 is key. It is derived from the Ternary (3) (Father, Son, Holy Spirit; or the three parts of the symbol: Crescent, Circle, Cross) multiplied by the Quaternary (4) (the four elements/limbs of the cross).
The Septenary relates to the 7 Days of the Week, the 7 Ptolemaic Planets, the 7 Metals of Antiquity, and the 7 Archangels.
- The Question of the "Top Boss" Your question, "...you got no more top boss above that, right," speaks directly to the symbol's philosophical place.
In Dee's view, the Monad is a figure of the ultimate Unity. Since it contains all the constituent parts of the universe—from the spiritual (Sun/Moon) down to the material (Elements/Zodiac)—it is intended to be a complete microcosm of the Divine creative process.
It is not the personal deity Yahweh itself, but rather the geometric, mathematical, and philosophical formula that underlies and describes the unity of the Divine source from which everything emanates. In that sense, for the systems that use it, it represents the highest principle of creation.
Would you like to delve into the connection between John Dee's Monas Hieroglyphica and his system of Enochian magic?