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The reason behind inequality, greed and evil is not material needs that have not been met and can't be mended by material means.

You imagined one exaggerated assumption about my views and just made opposite exaggerated assumption to argue.

There are multiple reasons behind things you listed. Some are material and some are spiritual. We are not able to remove spiritual ones, since they are in our nature, but that does not mean we couldn't eliminate material ones, instead of accepting them as something natural, or even using them for our selfish reasons.

You also mistakingly assume "communism" as a "paradise on Earth" which is impossible for obvious reasons and this assumption was pushed by ideologists for purpose. Absolutely not, "StarTrek communism" is in no way a "paradise on Earth", just a society where all material needs are satisfied.

That does not mean that people will turn into vegetables. Some will definitely do that, but better they be vegetables than politicians or thieves. Most people will still have many reasons to live an active and creative life, for purely spiritual reasons. IDK, if you ever feel that thirst to do something when vacation is long enough, but that's how most people manifest spiritual attraction to the creation.

Мoney exists because man loves power and wants to dominate over other men, not because of pure pragmatic reason like you buying stuff with it.

Exactly. That's why money should be destroyed. Humans will still love power and domination, but will have to achieve them with developing own merits, including spiritual ones, not by theft, coinflipping and usury as they do now.

people will commit crime just for the sake of it (you're a Russian, right - haven't you red Dostoyevsky?)

Of course they will. Again, real communism is in no way "paradise on Earth", and does not solve any spiritual challenges humans face constantly. But it will give an axe not only to Raskolnikov, but also to rentier old lady too.

I hope you support "Second amendment", aren't you? Then Colt did a very important thing - he practically implemented "Second amendment", just in one very narrow area. Thing I'm talking about is just same "Second amendment" but not just for guns, but for everything.

When everyone have a gun, crime goes down. Not because owning a gun change something in spiritual sphere of human being, but because criminal lose part of their power over others. However, power that is used against people by those who have a criminal mind and a thrist of domination is not only guns, but also energy, food, home, family and so on. Money is just a tool used to make stealing of all above from people easier. If you have a need to exchange something, then there will be money as a mean of exchange. If there will be money, there will be usury, cheating, theft and so on. The only way to avoid this completely is to eliminate a need for exchnage. If you can make anything you need by yourself, there is no need to exchange anything, so no need for money, and so those who want power over you they don't deserve will have no way to obtain it.

You can't cure the world of evil by producing more stuff

Again, you are more marxist than me. :) Or at least under heavy marxist propaganda, regardless of sign. The society where all material needs are satisfied is in no way will be a "Paradise on Earth" as marxists insisting and those opposing them repeating. It is not about curing the world at all, it is about eliminating all obstacles for the world to cure. The decision will be on each and every person then, clearly and without any excuses.

No political or economical system can bring salvation - salvation is only through Christ and His Church.

Exactly. That's why achieving a practical communism is important. When you have everything material you need, then what will be your excuse to not search for salvation in Christ? Thing I'm talking about will put the question of salvation in it's essence without any way to find any excuse. It will clearly show who is who, and what side he stand.

Remember, Christ fed thousands with few loafs and fishes. And He did it at least twice. Guess why He resorted to that local practical communism? Definitely not for virtue signalling or whatever selfish shit. If God did that, then it is obviously have a lot of sense.

58 days ago
1 score
Reason: Original

The reason behind inequality, greed and evil is not material needs that have not been met and can't be mended by material means.

You imagined one exaggerated assumption about my views and just made opposite exaggerated assumption to argue.

There are multiple reasons behind things you listed. Some are material and some are spiritual. We are not able to remove spiritual ones, since they are in our nature, but that does not mean we could eliminate material ones, instead of accepting them as something natural, or even using them for our selfish reasons.

You also mistakingly assume "communism" as a "paradise on Earth" which is impossible for obvious reasons and this assumption was pushed by ideologists for purpose. Absolutely not, "StarTrek communism" is in no way a "paradise on Earth", just a society where all material needs are satisfied.

That does not mean that people will turn into vegetables. Some will definitely do that, but better they be vegetables than politicians or thieves. Most people will still have many reasons to live an active and creative life, for purely spiritual reasons. IDK, if you ever feel that thirst to do something when vacation is long enough, but that's how most people manifest spiritual attraction to the creation.

Мoney exists because man loves power and wants to dominate over other men, not because of pure pragmatic reason like you buying stuff with it.

Exactly. That's why money should be destroyed. Humans will still love power and domination, but will have to achieve them with developing own merits, including spiritual ones, not by theft, coinflipping and usury as they do now.

people will commit crime just for the sake of it (you're a Russian, right - haven't you red Dostoyevsky?)

Of course they will. Again, real communism is in no way "paradise on Earth", and does not solve any spiritual challenges humans face constantly. But it will give an axe not only to Raskolnikov, but also to rentier old lady too.

I hope you support "Second amendment", aren't you? Then Colt did a very important thing - he practically implemented "Second amendment", just in one very narrow area. Thing I'm talking about is just same "Second amendment" but not just for guns, but for everything.

When everyone have a gun, crime goes down. Not because owning a gun change something in spiritual sphere of human being, but because criminal lose part of their power over others. However, power that is used against people by those who have a criminal mind and a thrist of domination is not only guns, but also energy, food, home, family and so on. Money is just a tool used to make stealing of all above from people easier. If you have a need to exchange something, then there will be money as a mean of exchange. If there will be money, there will be usury, cheating, theft and so on. The only way to avoid this completely is to eliminate a need for exchnage. If you can make anything you need by yourself, there is no need to exchange anything, so no need for money, and so those who want power over you they don't deserve will have no way to obtain it.

You can't cure the world of evil by producing more stuff

Again, you are more marxist than me. :) Or at least under heavy marxist propaganda, regardless of sign. The society where all material needs are satisfied is in no way will be a "Paradise on Earth" as marxists insisting and those opposing them repeating. It is not about curing the world at all, it is about eliminating all obstacles for the world to cure. The decision will be on each and every person then, clearly and without any excuses.

No political or economical system can bring salvation - salvation is only through Christ and His Church.

Exactly. That's why achieving a practical communism is important. When you have everything material you need, then what will be your excuse to not search for salvation in Christ? Thing I'm talking about will put the question of salvation in it's essence without any way to find any excuse. It will clearly show who is who, and what side he stand.

Remember, Christ fed thousands with few loafs and fishes. And He did it at least twice. Guess why He resorted to that local practical communism? Definitely not for virtue signalling or whatever selfish shit. If God did that, then it is obviously have a lot of sense.

58 days ago
1 score