Which means that trilobites must be the highest, purest forms of life and we're all just degraded trilobites.

No. God created all the first creatures. Adam and eve sin. Now genes degrade. Then flood bottleneck. Now the condition of genes get worse. And it only gets worse from there.

We have never observed a different family-taxa evolve from existing family-taxa organisms, for the ~6K years we have been here.

Isn't it amazing how schools prop up Peppered Moths as evo proof, when all it is is natural selection? Until they looked at the moths DNA for gains, if no NOVEL FEATURE has been proven, it's not evo evidence at all.

The genes of those moths only degraded over time, not upgraded.

Instant creation... sorted into layers with each layer having a different and unique set of fossils in it, to trick man into thinking that it was formed over time.

No, more that man rejects Genesis and wants to think he can determine origins and age APART from the Bible.

Atheists looove evo and gorillions of years. Because they don't need to believe the Bible to belive those beliefs, whilst still maintaining a sense of our origins and age, and a semblance of reason.

Meanwhile, believing Genesis is fully Bible reliant. The world actively hates and censors it. Unlike evo and deeptime which the world loves. The world loves its own. The world hates Jesus, the TRUTH, and the factual Account of our true origins. Atheistic worldview ideas do nothing to scare the worLd at all. So drop them.

Everything about the instant creation hypothesis hinges on

the Bible.

a single Hebrew word "bara" which only ever refers to creation in one place; elsewhere it refers to clearing and deforesting.

Elsewhere. So, not in Genesis then. Thanks for confirming. Days are mentioned elsewhere in the Bible, guess that means Jonah was in a whale for gorillions of years.

Further, the B in Hebrew is often proclitic, adding "with pleasure" to the rest of the word -- making the correct way to see the word as "b'ra'a" which would mean "look down with pleasure on" consistent with the rest of the account in which each phase God sees that it is good.

According to your worldview death and suffering and incompleteness were all throughout creation, before sin. That contradicts the Bible, though. And that is not "pleasure-some" at all.

and inserting your own beliefs,

No one believed "13.8 billion years" or "all life from some germs" or "germs from goo" until very recently. Well actually, the ancient pagans probably promoted the former two, while followers of God never promoted them.

story of a bunch of shining people

Where?

(yes, plural) coming down from a high mountain to reshape the lowlands and assemble creatures.

"God couldn't create directly, He is so weak He needs helpers to cobble stuff together"

..... no wonder atheists are wholly unconvinced by compromise-with-atheists Christians.

does not come from a plain reading of the Bible at all

The ahteistic worldview beliefs about the past sure don't.

but rather from a bunch of assumptions that you've inserted into it.

Na.

The origin of the idea of creation ex-nihilo is in a debate between a follower of Plato and a [OLD EARTH ADDED ] Christian.

Mabye because plato paid more attention to Scripture than you did.

The pagan myths all involve the gods creating from preexisting matter. Sound familiar??

If I believe Plato, then you believe pagans.

I don't know why the Christians cared so much about having the approval of the philosophers

Self awareness levels in the marina trench. Compromising Christians, Genesis doubters, your ilk, all seek approval from the worLd and Big Science TM, which has proven itself to be a FRAUD, GRIFT, LIE, CHEAT, SCAM, ELITE-RUN, TYRANNY-BOOSTER more and more lately.

but they screwed so much with their beliefs just to get approval that Paul wrote a lot to tell them to stop (and when Paul wasn't there to stop them anymore,

Since you believe in "new revelation being valid", God isnt giving us any new letters for us to stop believing YEC. So either YEC is true or new revelation is never gonna come.

guess what they turned the religion into

Thanks for admitting that compromising one's Christian worldview is bad!!

Anyway, creation ex-nihilo was invented on the spot

No it wasn't. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible suggesting God made light (Day 1) out of existing matter. There is zero reason to assume He made things ex materia unless the Bible SPECIFIES that He did. Like when He made men from dust (and not from some disfigured monkey-like horrid mutant ugly creature), which was ex materia.

Creation ex-nihilo was never taught before then.

Nope, it's been around since before 300 AD. When was abiogenesis, Family-into-family evo, and long ages invented?

Which means that trilobites must be the highest, purest forms of life and we're all just degraded trilobites.

No. God created all the first creatures. Adam and eve sin. Now genes degrade. Then flood bottleneck. Now the condition of genes get worse. And it only gets worse from there.

We have never observed a different family-taxa evolve from existing family-taxa organisms, for the ~6K years we have been here.

Isn't it amazing how schools prop up Peppered Moths as evo proof, when all it is is natural selection? Until they looked at the moths DNA for gains, if no NOVEL FEATURE has been proven, it's not evo evidence at all.

The genes of those moths only degraded over time, not upgraded.

Instant creation... sorted into layers with each layer having a different and unique set of fossils in it, to trick man into thinking that it was formed over time.

No, more that man rejects Genesis and wants to think he can determine origins and age APART from the Bible.

Atheists looove evo and gorillions of years. Because they don't need to believe the Bible to belive those beliefs, whilst still maintaining a sense of our origins and age, and a semblance of reason.

Meanwhile, believing Genesis is fully Bible reliant. The world actively hates and censors it. Unlike evo and deeptime which the world loves. The world loves its own. The world hates Jesus, the TRUTH, and the factual Account of our true origins. Atheistic worldview ideas do nothing to scare the worLd at all. So drop them.

Everything about the instant creation hypothesis hinges on

the Bible.

a single Hebrew word "bara" which only ever refers to creation in one place; elsewhere it refers to clearing and deforesting.

Elsewhere. So, not in Genesis then. Thanks for confirming. Days are mentioned elsewhere in the Bible, guess that means Jonah was in a whale for gorillions of years.

Further, the B in Hebrew is often proclitic, adding "with pleasure" to the rest of the word -- making the correct way to see the word as "b'ra'a" which would mean "look down with pleasure on" consistent with the rest of the account in which each phase God sees that it is good.

According to your worldview death and suffering and incompleteness were all throughout creation, before sin. That contradicts the Bible, though. And that is not "pleasure-some" at all.

and inserting your own beliefs,

No one believed "13.8 billion years" or "all life from some germs" or "germs from goo" until very recently. Well actually, the ancient pagans probably promoted the former two, while followers of God never promoted them.

story of a bunch of shining people

Where?

(yes, plural) coming down from a high mountain to reshape the lowlands and assemble creatures.

"God couldn't create directly, He is so weak He needs helpers to cobble stuff together"

..... no wonder atheists are wholly unconvinced by compromise-with-atheists Christians.

does not come from a plain reading of the Bible at all

The ahteistic worldview beliefs about the past sure don't.

but rather from a bunch of assumptions that you've inserted into it.

Na.

The origin of the idea of creation ex-nihilo is in a debate between a follower of Plato and a [OLD EARTH ADDED ] Christian.

Mabye because plato paid more attention to Scripture than you did.

The pagan myths all involve the gods creating from preexisting matter. Sound familiar??

If I believe Plato, then you believe pagans.

I don't know why the Christians cared so much about having the approval of the philosophers

Self awareness levels in the marina trench. Compromising Christians, Genesis doubters, your ilk, all seek approval from the worLd and Big Science TM, which has proven itself to be a FRAUD, GRIFT, LIE, CHEAT, SCAM, ELITE-RUN, TYRANNY-BOOSTER more and more lately.

but they screwed so much with their beliefs just to get approval that Paul wrote a lot to tell them to stop (and when Paul wasn't there to stop them anymore, guess what they turned the religion into?).

Since you believe in "new revelation being valid", God isnt giving us any new letters for us to stop believing YEC. So either YEC is true or new revelation is never gonna come.

Anyway, creation ex-nihilo was invented on the spot

No it wasn't. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible suggesting God made light (Day 1) out of existing matter. There is zero reason to assume He made things ex materia unless the Bible SPECIFIES that He did. Like when He made men from dust (and not from some disfigured monkey-like horrid mutant ugly creature), which was ex materia.

Creation ex-nihilo was never taught before then.

Nope, it's been around since before 300 AD. When was abiogenesis, Family-into-family evo, and long ages invented?

Which means that trilobites must be the highest, purest forms of life and we're all just degraded trilobites.

No. God created all the first creatures. Adam and eve sin. Now genes degrade. Then flood bottleneck. Now the condition of genes get worse. And it only gets worse from there.

We have never observed a different family-taxa evolve from existing family-taxa organisms, for the ~6K years we have been here.

Isn't it amazing how schools prop up Peppered Moths as evo proof, when all it is is natural selection? Until they looked at the moths DNA for gains, if no NOVEL FEATURE has been proven, it's not evo evidence at all.

The genes of those moths only degraded over time, not upgraded.

Instant creation... sorted into layers with each layer having a different and unique set of fossils in it, to trick man into thinking that it was formed over time.

No, more that man rejects Genesis and wants to think he can determine origins and age APART from the Bible.

Atheists looove evo and gorillions of years. Because they don't need to believe the Bible to belive those beliefs, whilst still maintaining a sense of our origins and age, and a semblance of reason.

Meanwhile, believing Genesis is fully Bible reliant. The world actively hates and censors it. Unlike evo and deeptime which the world loves. The world loves its own. The world hates Jesus, the TRUTH, and the factual Account of our true origins. Atheistic worldview ideas do nothing to scare the worLd at all. So drop them.

Everything about the instant creation hypothesis hinges on

the Bible.

a single Hebrew word "bara" which only ever refers to creation in one place; elsewhere it refers to clearing and deforesting.

Elsewhere. So, not in Genesis then. Thanks for confirming. Days are mentioned elsewhere in the Bible, guess that means Jonah was in a whale for gorillions of years.

Further, the B in Hebrew is often proclitic, adding "with pleasure" to the rest of the word -- making the correct way to see the word as "b'ra'a" which would mean "look down with pleasure on" consistent with the rest of the account in which each phase God sees that it is good.

According to your worldview death and suffering and incompleteness were all throughout creation, before sin. That contradicts the Bible, though. And that is not "pleasure-some" at all.

and inserting your own beliefs,

No one believed "13.8 billion years" or "all life from some germs" or "germs from goo" until very recently. Well actually, the ancient pagans probably promoted the former two, while followers of God never promoted them.

story of a bunch of shining people

That don't exist.

(yes, plural) coming down from a high mountain to reshape the lowlands and assemble creatures.

"God couldn't create directly, He is so weak He needs helpers to cobble stuff together"

..... no wonder atheists are wholly unconvinced by compromise-with-atheists Christians.

does not come from a plain reading of the Bible at all

The ahteistic worldview beliefs about the past sure don't.

but rather from a bunch of assumptions that you've inserted into it.

Na.

The origin of the idea of creation ex-nihilo is in a debate between a follower of Plato and a [OLD EARTH ADDED ] Christian.

Mabye because plato paid more attention to Scripture than you did.

The pagan myths all involve the gods creating from preexisting matter. Sound familiar??

If I believe Plato, then you believe pagans.

I don't know why the Christians cared so much about having the approval of the philosophers

Self awareness levels in the marina trench. Compromising Christians, Genesis doubters, your ilk, all seek approval from the worLd and Big Science TM, which has proven itself to be a FRAUD, GRIFT, LIE, CHEAT, SCAM, ELITE-RUN, TYRANNY-BOOSTER more and more lately.

but they screwed so much with their beliefs just to get approval that Paul wrote a lot to tell them to stop (and when Paul wasn't there to stop them anymore, guess what they turned the religion into?).

Since you believe in "new revelation being valid", God isnt giving us any new letters for us to stop believing YEC. So either YEC is true or new revelation is never gonna come.

Anyway, creation ex-nihilo was invented on the spot

No it wasn't. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible suggesting God made light (Day 1) out of existing matter. There is zero reason to assume He made things ex materia unless the Bible SPECIFIES that He did. Like when He made men from dust (and not from some disfigured monkey-like horrid mutant ugly creature), which was ex materia.

Creation ex-nihilo was never taught before then.

Nope, it's been around since before 300 AD. When was abiogenesis, Family-into-family evo, and long ages invented?

Which means that trilobites must be the highest, purest forms of life and we're all just degraded trilobites.

No. God created all the first creatures. Adam and eve sin. Now genes degrade. Then flood bottleneck. Now the condition of genes get worse. And it only gets worse from there.

We have never observed a different family-taxa evolve from existing family-taxa organisms, for the ~6K years we have been here.

Isn't it amazing how schools prop up Peppered Moths as evo proof, when all it is is natural selection? Until they looked at the moths DNA for gains, if no NOVEL FEATURE has been proven, it's not evo evidence at all.

The genes of those moths only degraded over time, not upgraded.

Instant creation... sorted into layers with each layer having a different and unique set of fossils in it, to trick man into thinking that it was formed over time.

No, more that man rejects Genesis and wants to think he can determine origins and age APART from the Bible.

Atheists looove evo and gorillions of years. Because they don't need to believe the Bible to belive those beliefs, whilst still maintaining a sense of our origins and age, and a semblance of reason.

Meanwhile, believing Genesis is fully Bible reliant. The world actively hates and censors it. Unlike evo and deeptime which the world loves. The world loves its own. The world hates Jesus, the TRUTH, and the factual Account of our true origins. Atheistic worldview ideas do nothing to scare the worLd at all. So drop them.

Everything about the instant creation hypothesis hinges on

the Bible.

a single Hebrew word "bara" which only ever refers to creation in one place; elsewhere it refers to clearing and deforesting.

Elsewhere. So, not in Genesis then. Thanks for confirming. Days are mentioned elsewhere in the Bible, guess that means Jonah was in a whale for gorillions of years.

Further, the B in Hebrew is often proclitic, adding "with pleasure" to the rest of the word -- making the correct way to see the word as "b'ra'a" which would mean "look down with pleasure on" consistent with the rest of the account in which each phase God sees that it is good.

According to your worldview death and suffering and incompleteness were all throughout creation, before sin. That contradicts the Bible, though. And that is not "pleasure-some" at all.

and inserting your own beliefs,

No one believed "13.8 billion years" or "all life from some germs" or "germs from goo" until very recently. Well actually, the ancient pagans probably promoted the former two, while followers of God never pronoted them.

story of a bunch of shining people

That don't exist.

(yes, plural) coming down from a high mountain to reshape the lowlands and assemble creatures.

"God couldn't create directly, He is so weak He needs helpers to cobble stuff together"

..... no wonder atheists are wholly unconvinced by compromise-with-atheists Christians.

does not come from a plain reading of the Bible at all

The ahteistic worldview beliefs about the past sure don't.

but rather from a bunch of assumptions that you've inserted into it.

Na.

The origin of the idea of creation ex-nihilo is in a debate between a follower of Plato and a [OLD EARTH ADDED ] Christian.

Mabye because plato paid more attention to Scripture than you did.

The pagan myths all involve the gods creating from preexisting matter. Sound familiar??

If I believe Plato, then you believe pagans.

I don't know why the Christians cared so much about having the approval of the philosophers

Self awareness levels in the marina trench. Compromising Christians, Genesis doubters, your ilk, all seek approval from the worLd and Big Science TM, which has proven itself to be a FRAUD, GRIFT, LIE, CHEAT, SCAM, ELITE-RUN, TYRANNY-BOOSTER more and more lately.

but they screwed so much with their beliefs just to get approval that Paul wrote a lot to tell them to stop (and when Paul wasn't there to stop them anymore, guess what they turned the religion into?).

Since you believe in "new revelation being valid", God isnt giving us any new letters for us to stop believing YEC. So either YEC is true or new revelation is never gonna come.

Anyway, creation ex-nihilo was invented on the spot

No it wasn't. There is absolutely nothing in the Bible suggesting God made light (Day 1) out of existing matter. There is zero reason to assume He made things ex materia unless the Bible SPECIFIES that He did. Like when He made men from dust (and not from some disfigured monkey-like horrid mutant ugly creature), which was ex materia.

Creation ex-nihilo was never taught before then.

Nope, it's been around since before 300 AD. When was abiogenesis, Family-into-family evo, and long ages invented?