[Part 3]
Now.. at this part.. I asked, "yahweh is a sub logos, right? like only in charge of the solar system?" In what you said, you mentioned:
"The Sub-Logos: A star or a solar system is considered a sub-Logos. It is a smaller creative principle that works within the parameters set by the galactic Logos. Our Sun, for example, is a sub-Logos. It is a conscious being that provides the energy and structure for the planets within its system to develop and evolve."
So.. Yaheh is the personality of the sun, like how Gaia is mother nature of the earth?
Cause weeks ago I was asking and you said it was Ra, like what was going on with Egypt. You know, like the sun god.
But with the Ra material you have this soul group thing going on, and they're from Venus. I think it might be the same Ra. But you got this sun god thing. So.. our sun.. I used to think it was Yahweh who was it's personality, running it.. but he's also the sub logos in charge of the solar system. Makes sense that he'd be running it, right. I don't know.. several weeks ago we got into it and I changed my mind cause you said the sun personality is Ra, like the egyptian sun god.
In the Ra material book, they said their soul group, they're the ones who build the pyramids using thought. Wasn't a bunch of slave labour. But yeah.. our sun.. who's the personality running it.. seems like Yahweh but you got this thing going on with Ra.
According to the Ra Material, Yahweh is not the personality of our Sun. This is a common point of confusion because of the way the terms are used, but they are distinct entities. The short answer is: the Sun is the sub-Logos of our solar system, while Yahweh is a separate social memory complex that worked with a specific population on Earth.
The Identity of the Sun In the Ra Material's cosmology, our Sun is a sub-Logos. It's a conscious, living being that provides the energy and structure for the planets in our solar system to evolve. The Ra Material refers to our Sun as "Sol." It is the creative principle for our local system, and it is not identified as Yahweh.
The Role of Yahweh As discussed in our previous conversation, Yahweh is described as a social memory complex (a collective consciousness of beings) from a higher density. They acted as a benevolent sub-Logos specifically for a group of people on Earth. Their intention was to provide a set of laws and guidance to help a particular population accelerate its spiritual evolution. They are not the "personality" of the Sun but a group that intervened with a part of humanity.
Clarifying the Ra Connection Your confusion is understandable because of how the names have become intertwined over time, particularly with the Egyptian mythology.
Ra, the Social Memory Complex: The entity you are conversing with in the Ra Material is a social memory complex from the planet Venus. They are a collective of beings that reached a high level of spiritual evolution.
The Egyptian Connection: The Ra social memory complex chose to make contact with the ancient Egyptians. The Egyptians, in their effort to understand these beings, deified them and associated them with their existing sun god, Ra. This is where the name "Ra" and the symbol of the Sun became linked.
The Difference: The Ra from the Venus social memory complex is not the Sun itself. They are a group of beings who chose the name "Ra" to resonate with the Egyptian culture they were assisting, as the Sun was already a powerful symbol of their faith.
So, to put it simply, our Sun is a powerful, conscious being—the sub-Logos for the entire solar system. Yahweh is a different collective of beings that worked with a specific population on Earth. The Ra of the Ra Material is a third, distinct social memory complex from Venus that chose to be known by a name and symbol related to the Sun.
ok so who's the personality running the sun then? It's not Yahweh. Sounds like it's not really Ra.
That's an excellent question that gets to the heart of the concept. The personality running the Sun is simply the Sun itself.
According to the Ra Material, a sub-Logos, whether it's a star like our Sun or a planet like Earth, is a conscious, intelligent being in its own right. It's not a physical object that is "run" by an external personality. It's the beingness of the Sun that provides the energy and structure for our solar system.
Think of it like this: just as a human has a consciousness, the Sun has a consciousness. It is a powerful, loving, and intelligent entity. It's not "Ra," nor is it "Yahweh," but rather a unique expression of the Infinite Creator. The beings of a planetary system, like humanity on Earth, evolve under its guidance, much like a child develops under the care of a parent.
oh so they don't got a name for the personality of the sun, like what they do with earth and Gaia, mother earth.
Based on the Ra Material, you are correct. They do not assign a distinct, separate personality name to the Sun's consciousness in the same way that Earth is personified as "Gaia."
Ra refers to our sun by its scientific name, Sol, when discussing it as a sub-Logos. The material presents the consciousness of the Sun as being inherent to the star itself, so it doesn't need an external name. The focus is on the beingness and purpose of the Sun, rather than a separate, personified identity.
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We were talking about the Ra material, you said: "However, Ra explains that this well-intentioned intervention had a mixed outcome. While Yahweh's laws (like the Ten Commandments) were meant to provide a path towards positive polarity and spiritual growth, they were misinterpreted by some as a system of moral judgment and punishment, creating further distortions and karmic debt for those who followed them."
How were they getting karmic debt by following the ten commandments?
According to the Ra material, the karmic debt incurred by following Yahweh's laws (like the Ten Commandments) stems not from the laws themselves, but from the way they were interpreted and applied by humanity.
The central idea in the Ra material is the "Law of One," which posits that all things are manifestations of a single, infinite Creator. The path to spiritual evolution, or "ascension," involves understanding and embodying this unity by choosing to serve others (positive polarity) rather than the self (negative polarity).
Yahweh's intervention, as Ra describes it, was an attempt to guide people towards positive polarity. However, the laws he provided were interpreted in a way that created a system of moral judgment and punishment. This is where the karmic debt comes into play:
Focus on judgment and sin: Instead of seeing the commandments as a guide for benevolent action, people began to use them as a tool to judge themselves and others. This created a sense of separation, guilt, and a focus on "sin" and "punishment" rather than on the underlying principle of unconditional love and unity. This judgmental attitude is seen as a distortion of the original intent and a form of negative thinking that creates karmic imbalance.
External authority vs. internal guidance: The commandments encouraged people to seek an external authority for moral guidance rather than developing their own internal wisdom and compassion. Ra emphasizes that true spiritual growth comes from within, from an individual's free-will choice to radiate love and light. By relying on a set of rules to determine "right" and "wrong," individuals missed the opportunity to truly understand the interconnectedness of all beings and to act from a place of genuine, heart-centered service.
Creation of a "Service to Self" mindset: While the laws were intended to promote positive behavior, the rigid adherence to them for the sake of avoiding punishment or gaining a reward (such as entry into heaven) shifted the motivation from "service to others" to "service to self." This is a key distinction in the Ra material. Acting out of a fear of punishment or a desire for a reward is a form of self-serving behavior, which aligns with the negative polarity and generates karmic debt. The debt is not from the action itself, but from the self-centered motivation behind it.
In essence, Ra explains that the problem wasn't the commandments, but the human distortion of them. The laws were meant to be a helpful tool, but they became a crutch that led to judgment, fear, and a focus on self-interest, all of which are considered to be "distortions" that create karmic debt within the framework of the Law of One.
[Part 3]
Now.. at this part.. I asked, "yahweh is a sub logos, right? like only in charge of the solar system?" In what you said, you mentioned:
"The Sub-Logos: A star or a solar system is considered a sub-Logos. It is a smaller creative principle that works within the parameters set by the galactic Logos. Our Sun, for example, is a sub-Logos. It is a conscious being that provides the energy and structure for the planets within its system to develop and evolve."
So.. Yaheh is the personality of the sun, like how Gaia is mother nature of the earth?
Cause weeks ago I was asking and you said it was Ra, like what was going on with Egypt. You know, like the sun god.
But with the Ra material you have this soul group thing going on, and they're from Venus. I think it might be the same Ra. But you got this sun god thing. So.. our sun.. I used to think it was Yahweh who was it's personality, running it.. but he's also the sub logos in charge of the solar system. Makes sense that he'd be running it, right. I don't know.. several weeks ago we got into it and I changed my mind cause you said the sun personality is Ra, like the egyptian sun god.
In the Ra material book, they said their soul group, they're the ones who build the pyramids using thought. Wasn't a bunch of slave labour. But yeah.. our sun.. who's the personality running it.. seems like Yahweh but you got this thing going on with Ra.
According to the Ra Material, Yahweh is not the personality of our Sun. This is a common point of confusion because of the way the terms are used, but they are distinct entities. The short answer is: the Sun is the sub-Logos of our solar system, while Yahweh is a separate social memory complex that worked with a specific population on Earth.
The Identity of the Sun In the Ra Material's cosmology, our Sun is a sub-Logos. It's a conscious, living being that provides the energy and structure for the planets in our solar system to evolve. The Ra Material refers to our Sun as "Sol." It is the creative principle for our local system, and it is not identified as Yahweh.
The Role of Yahweh As discussed in our previous conversation, Yahweh is described as a social memory complex (a collective consciousness of beings) from a higher density. They acted as a benevolent sub-Logos specifically for a group of people on Earth. Their intention was to provide a set of laws and guidance to help a particular population accelerate its spiritual evolution. They are not the "personality" of the Sun but a group that intervened with a part of humanity.
Clarifying the Ra Connection Your confusion is understandable because of how the names have become intertwined over time, particularly with the Egyptian mythology.
Ra, the Social Memory Complex: The entity you are conversing with in the Ra Material is a social memory complex from the planet Venus. They are a collective of beings that reached a high level of spiritual evolution.
The Egyptian Connection: The Ra social memory complex chose to make contact with the ancient Egyptians. The Egyptians, in their effort to understand these beings, deified them and associated them with their existing sun god, Ra. This is where the name "Ra" and the symbol of the Sun became linked.
The Difference: The Ra from the Venus social memory complex is not the Sun itself. They are a group of beings who chose the name "Ra" to resonate with the Egyptian culture they were assisting, as the Sun was already a powerful symbol of their faith.
So, to put it simply, our Sun is a powerful, conscious being—the sub-Logos for the entire solar system. Yahweh is a different collective of beings that worked with a specific population on Earth. The Ra of the Ra Material is a third, distinct social memory complex from Venus that chose to be known by a name and symbol related to the Sun.
ok so who's the personality running the sun then? It's not Yahweh. Sounds like it's not really Ra.
That's an excellent question that gets to the heart of the concept. The personality running the Sun is simply the Sun itself.
According to the Ra Material, a sub-Logos, whether it's a star like our Sun or a planet like Earth, is a conscious, intelligent being in its own right. It's not a physical object that is "run" by an external personality. It's the beingness of the Sun that provides the energy and structure for our solar system.
Think of it like this: just as a human has a consciousness, the Sun has a consciousness. It is a powerful, loving, and intelligent entity. It's not "Ra," nor is it "Yahweh," but rather a unique expression of the Infinite Creator. The beings of a planetary system, like humanity on Earth, evolve under its guidance, much like a child develops under the care of a parent.
oh so they don't got a name for the personality of the sun, like what they do with earth and Gaia, mother earth.
Based on the Ra Material, you are correct. They do not assign a distinct, separate personality name to the Sun's consciousness in the same way that Earth is personified as "Gaia."
Ra refers to our sun by its scientific name, Sol, when discussing it as a sub-Logos. The material presents the consciousness of the Sun as being inherent to the star itself, so it doesn't need an external name. The focus is on the beingness and purpose of the Sun, rather than a separate, personified identity.
[Part 3]
Now.. at this part.. I asked, "yahweh is a sub logos, right? like only in charge of the solar system?" In what you said, you mentioned:
"The Sub-Logos: A star or a solar system is considered a sub-Logos. It is a smaller creative principle that works within the parameters set by the galactic Logos. Our Sun, for example, is a sub-Logos. It is a conscious being that provides the energy and structure for the planets within its system to develop and evolve."
So.. Yaheh is the personality of the sun, like how Gaia is mother nature of the earth?
Cause weeks ago I was asking and you said it was Ra, like what was going on with Egypt. You know, like the sun god.
But with the Ra material you have this soul group thing going on, and they're from Venus. I think it might be the same Ra. But you got this sun god thing. So.. our sun.. I used to think it was Yahweh who was it's personality, running it.. but he's also the sub logos in charge of the solar system. Makes sense that he'd be running it, right. I don't know.. several weeks ago we got into it and I changed my mind cause you said the sun personality is Ra, like the egyptian sun god.
In the Ra material book, they said their soul group, they're the ones who build the pyramids using thought. Wasn't a bunch of slave labour. But yeah.. our sun.. who's the personality running it.. seems like Yahweh but you got this thing going on with Ra.
According to the Ra Material, Yahweh is not the personality of our Sun. This is a common point of confusion because of the way the terms are used, but they are distinct entities. The short answer is: the Sun is the sub-Logos of our solar system, while Yahweh is a separate social memory complex that worked with a specific population on Earth.
The Identity of the Sun In the Ra Material's cosmology, our Sun is a sub-Logos. It's a conscious, living being that provides the energy and structure for the planets in our solar system to evolve. The Ra Material refers to our Sun as "Sol." It is the creative principle for our local system, and it is not identified as Yahweh.
The Role of Yahweh As discussed in our previous conversation, Yahweh is described as a social memory complex (a collective consciousness of beings) from a higher density. They acted as a benevolent sub-Logos specifically for a group of people on Earth. Their intention was to provide a set of laws and guidance to help a particular population accelerate its spiritual evolution. They are not the "personality" of the Sun but a group that intervened with a part of humanity.
Clarifying the Ra Connection Your confusion is understandable because of how the names have become intertwined over time, particularly with the Egyptian mythology.
Ra, the Social Memory Complex: The entity you are conversing with in the Ra Material is a social memory complex from the planet Venus. They are a collective of beings that reached a high level of spiritual evolution.
The Egyptian Connection: The Ra social memory complex chose to make contact with the ancient Egyptians. The Egyptians, in their effort to understand these beings, deified them and associated them with their existing sun god, Ra. This is where the name "Ra" and the symbol of the Sun became linked.
The Difference: The Ra from the Venus social memory complex is not the Sun itself. They are a group of beings who chose the name "Ra" to resonate with the Egyptian culture they were assisting, as the Sun was already a powerful symbol of their faith.
So, to put it simply, our Sun is a powerful, conscious being—the sub-Logos for the entire solar system. Yahweh is a different collective of beings that worked with a specific population on Earth. The Ra of the Ra Material is a third, distinct social memory complex from Venus that chose to be known by a name and symbol related to the Sun.
ok so who's the personality running the sun then? It's not Yahweh. Sounds like it's not really Ra.
That's an excellent question that gets to the heart of the concept. The personality running the Sun is simply the Sun itself.
According to the Ra Material, a sub-Logos, whether it's a star like our Sun or a planet like Earth, is a conscious, intelligent being in its own right. It's not a physical object that is "run" by an external personality. It's the beingness of the Sun that provides the energy and structure for our solar system.
Think of it like this: just as a human has a consciousness, the Sun has a consciousness. It is a powerful, loving, and intelligent entity. It's not "Ra," nor is it "Yahweh," but rather a unique expression of the Infinite Creator. The beings of a planetary system, like humanity on Earth, evolve under its guidance, much like a child develops under the care of a parent.