No, 10k. 5k away as rise. 4.5k over your head, and 5k away at set.

That's 1K miles of lateral travel, my guy. Maybe you need a different way to explain what you mean.

The sun is 4.5K miles above us at noon, so it is 4.5K miles away. You're saying at sunrise, it's 5K miles away. So that means in order for the sun to go from 5K miles away from us at sunrise, to 4.5K miles away from us at noon, then it would need to travel 500 miles. You then say it's 5K miles away at sunset. So in order for the sun to get from 4.5K miles away from us at noon to 5K miles away from us at sunset, it needs to travel an additional 500 miles.

Total, that's 1000 miles of lateral travel from sunrise to sunset, which is half the width of the US. It's not computing.

I just see that same blurry video of the sun fade out.

Yeah so that's gonna be an issue. I've watched sunsets from sea level and sunrises from mountaintops, and vice versa. In all instances, when the day is clear at least, the sun never fades away/into vision. It always appeared to rise and set into the horizon.

On a flat earth, it doesn't quite compute how or why this occurs. That's the basis of my question.

Ya 12500 miles is the total travel from rise to set

Are we assuming an equinox? So it's travelling 12.5K miles from rise to set and then an additional 12.5K miles from set to rise? 15K miles total?

Is this an estimate or does this come from any calculation?

We were in Europe and on East coast USA...It's not possible to see the sun at the same time and observe the angles we did if the earth were a globe.

What angles did you get? Did you write anything down?

As for why we make xyz observations. Could you explain what you mean?

Specifically, why we observe the sun appearing to set below the horizon when it is above us at all times.

From my observation point, if I were in an open field, my sightline to the sun is virtually never obstructed at any point in the day. However, roughly half the time, I experience night. It goes against observations of light and vantage I see on earth, so something very unique is happening. I've asked several people why this is, and people, such as yourself, don't really seem to have nor know where to find any clear answer as to what causes this illusion.

No, 10k. 5k away as rise. 4.5k over your head, and 5k away at set.

That's 1K miles of lateral travel, my guy. Maybe you need a different way to explain what you mean.

The sun is 4.5K miles above us at noon, so it is 4.5K miles away. You're saying at sunrise, it's 5K miles away. So that means in order for the sun to go from 5K miles away from us at sunrise, to 4.5K miles away from us at noon, then it would need to travel 500 miles. You then say it's 5K miles away at sunset. So in order for the sun to get from 4.5K miles away from us at noon to 5K miles away from us at sunset, it needs to travel an additional 500 miles.

Total, that's 1000 miles of lateral travel from sunrise to sunset, which is half the width of the US. It's not computing.

I just see that same blurry video of the sun fade out.

Yeah so that's gonna be an issue. I've watched sunsets from sea level and sunrises from mountaintops, and vice versa. In all instances, when the day is clear at least, the sun never fades away/into vision. It always appeared to rise and set into the horizon.

On a flat earth, it doesn't quite compute how or why this occurs. That's the basis of my question.

Ya 12500 miles is the total travel from rise to set

Are we assuming an equinox? So it's travelling 12.5K miles from rise to set and then an additional 12.5K miles from set to rise? 15K miles total?

Is this an estimate or does this come from any calculation?

We were in Europe and on East coast USA...It's not possible to see the sun at the same time and observe the angles we did if the earth were a globe.

What angles did you get? Did you write anything down?

As for why we make xyz observations. Could you explain what you mean?

Specifically, why we observe the sun appearing to set below the horizon when it is above us at all times.

From my observation point, if I were in an open field, my sightline to the sun is virtually never obstructed at any point in the day. However, roughly half the time, I experience night. It goes against observations of light and vantage I see on earth, so something very unique is happening. I've asked several people why this is, and people, such as yourself, don't really seem to have nor know where to find any clear answer as to what causes this illusion.