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Are you sure about that? There seems to be a mismatch from what I have learned, and what we are told.

Sure, the rich wanted the indians shit, but not all colonists were like that. ...

https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/15/john-wing-ii/

In 1637, ten influential citizens from Saugus had petitioned the General Court of Plymouth Colony to found a new settlement on Cape Cod. Whether their decision to settle in that area was influenced by Rev. Stephen Bachiler’s attempt to found a settlement at Mattacheese (now Yarmouth) is not known.

The land there was perhaps no more inviting for agricultural purposes than that which then generally engrossed attention within the jurisdiction of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, but it had some advantages for fishing purposes, it was not encumbered by heavy forests, it was easy of cultivation, it might be had free by all acceptable occupants, and the Indians in possession of it were remarkable for their uniform friendship for the English.

Some apprehensions began early to be felt that the Indians of the West were hostilely inclined toward the settlers, and a law was enacted to prevent all Indians from having the use of firearms. A number of persons were complained of (about 1642) for allowing Indians to use such weapons even in hunting. Among these were the Assistant Governor Freeman and John Wing for lending guns to Indians.

Indeed there are some indications that for an indefinite time before this he had purchased and lived upon a piece of land in the vicinity. It was in the northern part of the town, in the neighborhood of the sea coast. The Indians were then and for some time afterwards numerous in that region, but they were peaceable and never engaged in any hostile proceedings against the English. The precise spot on which John Wing settled is supposed to have been a high piece of land surrounded by swamp or meadow land, subsequently called “Wing’s Island,” about a mile northeast of the present town of Brewster.

In 1677, at a town meeting May 30, “the townsmen of Yarmouth did forewarn John Wing and our neighbors of Sawfucket from purchasing any lands in the bounds of our township of any Indian, or to take any possession thereof from them as being contrary to Court order. The order here referred to was one which prohibited any pnvale purchases from the aboriginal possessors of the soil; in the first place because no private Indian was really the owner of tribal lands in severally, and in the second place because advantage was often taken of Indians by selfish and dishonest persons.

It appears, however, that some transactions of this kind were allowed, especially with certain chiefs or sachems, who were actual owners of individual property. The very transaction here alluded to was subsequently allowed, and became the legal title to a large body of land. In the Book of Evidences of lands for the jurisdiction of New Plymouth there is recorded a deed of land, of which the following is the purport, viz: On the first of March 1676/77, John Wing and John Dillingham, in behalf of themselves and others’ associated with them, (viz: Thomas Clarke, Kenelm Winslow, Paul Sears and Ananias and Joseph Wing,) purchased of Robin (Indian), of Maltacheese, and Sarah his wife, daughter of Nepaitan, sachem of Mattacheese. of Samson, of Nobscusset, and Panasamust his wife, and of Ralph of Nobscusset, and Menetatomust his wife, other daughters of Nepaitan; all that tract of land, both upland and meadow, which they had in common or partnership lying in Saquetucket in the liberties of Yarmouth between the place commonly called Bound Brook on the west, and the middle of Saquetucket river on the east.

Funny how my ancestors didnt kill or steal the indians shit, they actually treated indians like human beings and bartered with them. But im supposed to feel bad about what the rich do? lol?

Grindall Wing went by the name of Henry Wing. According to old family stories he left Vermont at age 18, moving to Ohio during the War of 1812. He was engaged with Capt. Reilly in shipping supplies to forts along the Maumee River and in surveying Ohio. He married Eleanor Frazee about 1824 in Columbiana Co., Ohio. They lived near Defiance for a year, moving in 1825 to a place near Ottawa, where he was the first permanent white settler. He was killed Sept 17, 1843 by a falling tree while building the Defiance-Ottawa Road.

I cant actually find any stories where the wings were involved with slaughtering indians lol.

Wings island still exists today and is owned by the cape cod museum, I believe. Or a national monument or something.

https://www.capecodmuseumtrail.com/walking-wing-island/

Its ironic that my family is very big on freedom and choice to choose what you believe. Its our core foundations.

Only to find out that its literally in my blood, ill tell you was my mind blown. Found this source a little while ago, I have no idea if its true or not, but it lines up with what I heard in the family.

This old and distinguished family dates back to the earliest of colonial days in America. And previous to its colonial settlement, it is possible to trace it back quite definitely into the remote and dim past. The founder of the family undoubtedly came into England with the Danish invasion about 950 A. D., a thousand years ago. Geoffrey Winge of Huntingdonshire, born about 1250, was one of the early Anglian ancestors of the present family. In England today there are two “Wing” parishes. One of them is in Buckingham and consists of the ancient and famed Wing Manor, once the property of Cardinal Wolsey; the other, in Rutland. Both have churches dating back to the twelfth century.

The name “Wing” is derived from the Danish word “vinge” meaning a “wing”; and one of the Vikings, who settled Iceland, was named “Voengr”, which means the same thing. In various English counties—Buckingham Huntingdon, Oxford, Kent—the name frequently appeared as Wynge, Winge or in other variations; and those bearing the name were for the most part of the landed gentry and yeomanry.

https://youtu.be/eHg5kJLkn08?t=116

"My name is john wing, wing is a chinese name, in chinese it means, the arm of a bird."

Yeah your right john.

2 days ago
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Are you sure about that? There seems to be a mismatch from what I have learned, and what we are told.

Sure, the rich wanted the indians shit, but not all colonists were like that. ...

https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/15/john-wing-ii/

In 1637, ten influential citizens from Saugus had petitioned the General Court of Plymouth Colony to found a new settlement on Cape Cod. Whether their decision to settle in that area was influenced by Rev. Stephen Bachiler’s attempt to found a settlement at Mattacheese (now Yarmouth) is not known.

The land there was perhaps no more inviting for agricultural purposes than that which then generally engrossed attention within the jurisdiction of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, but it had some advantages for fishing purposes, it was not encumbered by heavy forests, it was easy of cultivation, it might be had free by all acceptable occupants, and the Indians in possession of it were remarkable for their uniform friendship for the English.

Some apprehensions began early to be felt that the Indians of the West were hostilely inclined toward the settlers, and a law was enacted to prevent all Indians from having the use of firearms. A number of persons were complained of (about 1642) for allowing Indians to use such weapons even in hunting. Among these were the Assistant Governor Freeman and John Wing for lending guns to Indians.

Indeed there are some indications that for an indefinite time before this he had purchased and lived upon a piece of land in the vicinity. It was in the northern part of the town, in the neighborhood of the sea coast. The Indians were then and for some time afterwards numerous in that region, but they were peaceable and never engaged in any hostile proceedings against the English. The precise spot on which John Wing settled is supposed to have been a high piece of land surrounded by swamp or meadow land, subsequently called “Wing’s Island,” about a mile northeast of the present town of Brewster.

In 1677, at a town meeting May 30, “the townsmen of Yarmouth did forewarn John Wing and our neighbors of Sawfucket from purchasing any lands in the bounds of our township of any Indian, or to take any possession thereof from them as being contrary to Court order. The order here referred to was one which prohibited any pnvale purchases from the aboriginal possessors of the soil; in the first place because no private Indian was really the owner of tribal lands in severally, and in the second place because advantage was often taken of Indians by selfish and dishonest persons.

It appears, however, that some transactions of this kind were allowed, especially with certain chiefs or sachems, who were actual owners of individual property. The very transaction here alluded to was subsequently allowed, and became the legal title to a large body of land. In the Book of Evidences of lands for the jurisdiction of New Plymouth there is recorded a deed of land, of which the following is the purport, viz: On the first of March 1676/77, John Wing and John Dillingham, in behalf of themselves and others’ associated with them, (viz: Thomas Clarke, Kenelm Winslow, Paul Sears and Ananias and Joseph Wing,) purchased of Robin (Indian), of Maltacheese, and Sarah his wife, daughter of Nepaitan, sachem of Mattacheese. of Samson, of Nobscusset, and Panasamust his wife, and of Ralph of Nobscusset, and Menetatomust his wife, other daughters of Nepaitan; all that tract of land, both upland and meadow, which they had in common or partnership lying in Saquetucket in the liberties of Yarmouth between the place commonly called Bound Brook on the west, and the middle of Saquetucket river on the east.

Funny how my ancestors didnt kill or steal the indians shit, they actually treated indians like human beings and bartered with them. But im supposed to feel bad about what the rich do? lol?

Grindall Wing went by the name of Henry Wing. According to old family stories he left Vermont at age 18, moving to Ohio during the War of 1812. He was engaged with Capt. Reilly in shipping supplies to forts along the Maumee River and in surveying Ohio. He married Eleanor Frazee about 1824 in Columbiana Co., Ohio. They lived near Defiance for a year, moving in 1825 to a place near Ottawa, where he was the first permanent white settler. He was killed Sept 17, 1843 by a falling tree while building the Defiance-Ottawa Road.

I cant actually find any stories where the wings were involved with slaughtering indians lol.

Wings island still exists today and is owned by the cape cod museum, I believe. Or a national monument or something.

https://www.capecodmuseumtrail.com/walking-wing-island/

Its ironic that my family is very big on freedom and choice to choose what you believe. Its our core foundations.

Only to find out that its literally in my blood, ill tell you was my mind blown.

2 days ago
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Reason: Original

Are you sure about that? There seems to be a mismatch from what I have learned, and what we are told.

Sure, the rich wanted the indians shit, but not all colonists were like that. ...

https://minerdescent.com/2010/05/15/john-wing-ii/

In 1637, ten influential citizens from Saugus had petitioned the General Court of Plymouth Colony to found a new settlement on Cape Cod. Whether their decision to settle in that area was influenced by Rev. Stephen Bachiler’s attempt to found a settlement at Mattacheese (now Yarmouth) is not known.

The land there was perhaps no more inviting for agricultural purposes than that which then generally engrossed attention within the jurisdiction of the Massachusetts Bay Colony, but it had some advantages for fishing purposes, it was not encumbered by heavy forests, it was easy of cultivation, it might be had free by all acceptable occupants, and the Indians in possession of it were remarkable for their uniform friendship for the English.

Some apprehensions began early to be felt that the Indians of the West were hostilely inclined toward the settlers, and a law was enacted to prevent all Indians from having the use of firearms. A number of persons were complained of (about 1642) for allowing Indians to use such weapons even in hunting. Among these were the Assistant Governor Freeman and John Wing for lending guns to Indians.

Indeed there are some indications that for an indefinite time before this he had purchased and lived upon a piece of land in the vicinity. It was in the northern part of the town, in the neighborhood of the sea coast. The Indians were then and for some time afterwards numerous in that region, but they were peaceable and never engaged in any hostile proceedings against the English. The precise spot on which John Wing settled is supposed to have been a high piece of land surrounded by swamp or meadow land, subsequently called “Wing’s Island,” about a mile northeast of the present town of Brewster.

In 1677, at a town meeting May 30, “the townsmen of Yarmouth did forewarn John Wing and our neighbors of Sawfucket from purchasing any lands in the bounds of our township of any Indian, or to take any possession thereof from them as being contrary to Court order. The order here referred to was one which prohibited any pnvale purchases from the aboriginal possessors of the soil; in the first place because no private Indian was really the owner of tribal lands in severally, and in the second place because advantage was often taken of Indians by selfish and dishonest persons.

It appears, however, that some transactions of this kind were allowed, especially with certain chiefs or sachems, who were actual owners of individual property. The very transaction here alluded to was subsequently allowed, and became the legal title to a large body of land. In the Book of Evidences of lands for the jurisdiction of New Plymouth there is recorded a deed of land, of which the following is the purport, viz: On the first of March 1676/77, John Wing and John Dillingham, in behalf of themselves and others’ associated with them, (viz: Thomas Clarke, Kenelm Winslow, Paul Sears and Ananias and Joseph Wing,) purchased of Robin (Indian), of Maltacheese, and Sarah his wife, daughter of Nepaitan, sachem of Mattacheese. of Samson, of Nobscusset, and Panasamust his wife, and of Ralph of Nobscusset, and Menetatomust his wife, other daughters of Nepaitan; all that tract of land, both upland and meadow, which they had in common or partnership lying in Saquetucket in the liberties of Yarmouth between the place commonly called Bound Brook on the west, and the middle of Saquetucket river on the east.

Funny how my ancestors didnt kill or steal the indians shit, they actually treated indians like human beings and bartered with them. But im supposed to feel bad about what the rich do? lol?

Grindall Wing went by the name of Henry Wing. According to old family stories he left Vermont at age 18, moving to Ohio during the War of 1812. He was engaged with Capt. Reilly in shipping supplies to forts along the Maumee River and in surveying Ohio. He married Eleanor Frazee about 1824 in Columbiana Co., Ohio. They lived near Defiance for a year, moving in 1825 to a place near Ottawa, where he was the first permanent white settler. He was killed Sept 17, 1843 by a falling tree while building the Defiance-Ottawa Road.

I cant actually find any stories where the wings were involved with slaughtering indians lol.

Wings island still exists today and is owned by the cape cod museum, I believe. Or a national monument or something.

https://www.capecodmuseumtrail.com/walking-wing-island/

2 days ago
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