Death occurs before the fall, just not for humans, who ate from the tree of life. When the Bible says death came into the world due to Adam's sin, it only mentions humans.

That's not what the Church teaches. God is life. God created everything and it was good. Therefore death is the moving away from God which only took place when Adam and Eve disobeyed God through their own free will. The Garden of Eden was paradise and there's no death in paradise. There was no death and no evil before the fall period. The first death of a living being was the animal that was used for it's skin to make their garments. The fall of man changed the whole nature of the world - it was cosmic in scope. This is the dogmatic teaching of both the Catholic and the Orthodox Churches and it's been so since the first ecumenical councils.

The creation story in Genesis, of the two of them, the one that deals with Adam and Eve, can be, by good Christians, accepted as purely allegorical. Our first ancestors disobeyed God in some way, and thus we have original sin.

Again, not what the Church teaches. This was a common heresy committed by the early gnostics. I believe Origen was excommunicated because of his free interpretation of Genesis. This may fly with gnostics, kabbalists, Jungians and Jordan Peterson but it's not a Christian interpretation.

From a scientific perspective, the universe is billions of years old and stars have winked out of existence before man first drew breath.

Where's the evidence of that? Is this real science at all or just Carl DeGrasse Dawkins story time for scientismo goobers? Has this been demonstrated using the scientific method? Why would a Christian take this wild speculation about what happened billions of years ago (which is based on pure faith and baseless assumptions of the nature of the universe btw) and prefer it to God's own revelation?

You're doing freestyle gnostic new-agey interpretation of Scripture and that's why I called you protestant. As a Catholic you're supposed to follow the teachings and dogmas of the RC Church as the sole authority on theological matters and correct your views when they diverge.

Death occurs before the fall, just not for humans, who ate from the tree of life. When the Bible says death came into the world due to Adam's sin, it only mentions humans.

That's not what the Church teaches. God is life. God created everything and it was good. Therefore death is the moving away from God which only took place when Adam and Eve disobeyed God through their own free will. The Garden of Eden was paradise and there's no death in paradise. There was no death and no evil before the fall period. The first death of a living being was the animal that was used for it's skin to make their garments. The fall of man changed the whole nature of the world - it was cosmic in scope. This is the dogmatic teaching of both the Catholic and the Orthodox Churches and it's been so since the first ecumenical councils.

The creation story in Genesis, of the two of them, the one that deals with Adam and Eve, can be, by good Christians, accepted as purely allegorical. Our first ancestors disobeyed God in some way, and thus we have original sin.

Again, not what the Church teaches. This was a common heresy committed by the early gnostics. I believe Origen was excommunicated because of his free interpretation of Genesis. This may fly with gnostics, kabbalists, Jungians and Jordan Peterson but it's not a Christian interpretation.

From a scientific perspective, the universe is billions of years old and stars have winked out of existence before man first drew breath.

Where's the evidence of that? Is this real science at all or just Carl DeGrasse Dawkins story time for scientismo goobers? Has this been demonstrated using the scientific method? Why would a Christian take this wild speculation about what happened billions of years ago (which is based on pure faith and baseless assumptions of the nature of the universe btw) and prefer it to God's own revelation?

You're doing freestyle gnostic new-agey interpretation of Scripture and that's why I called you protestant. As a Catholic you're supposed to follow the teachings and dogmas of the RC Church as the sole authority on theological matters.

Death occurs before the fall, just not for humans, who ate from the tree of life. When the Bible says death came into the world due to Adam's sin, it only mentions humans.

That's not what the Church teaches. God is life. God created everything and it was good. Therefore death is the moving away from God which only took place when Adam and Eve disobeyed God through their own free will. The Garden of Eden was paradise and there's no death in paradise. There was no death and no evil before the fall period. The first death of a living being was the animal that was used for it's skin to make their garments. The fall of man changed the whole nature of the world - it was cosmic in scope. This is the dogmatic teaching of both the Catholic and the Orthodox Churches and it's been so since the first ecumenical councils.

The creation story in Genesis, of the two of them, the one that deals with Adam and Eve, can be, by good Christians, accepted as purely allegorical. Our first ancestors disobeyed God in some way, and thus we have original sin.

Again, not what the Church teaches. This was a common heresy committed by the early gnostics. I believe Origen was excommunicated because of his free interpretation of Genesis. This may fly with gnostics, kabbalists, Jungians and Jordan Peterson but it's not a Christian interpretation.

From a scientific perspective, the universe is billions of years old and stars have winked out of existence before man first drew breath.

Where's the evidence of that? Is this real science at all or just Carl DeGrasse Dawkins story time for scientismo goobers? Has this been demonstrated using the scientific method? Why would a Christian take this wild speculation about what happened billions of years ago (which is based on pure faith and baseless assumptions of the nature of the universe btw) and prefer it to God's own revelation?

Death occurs before the fall, just not for humans, who ate from the tree of life. When the Bible says death came into the world due to Adam's sin, it only mentions humans.

That's not what the Church teaches. God is life. God created everything and it was good. Therefore death is the moving away from God which only took place when Adam and Eve disobeyed God through their own free will. The Garden of Eden was paradise and there's no death in paradise. There was no death and no evil before the fall period. The first death of a living being was the animal that was used for it's skin to make their garments. The fall of man changed the whole nature of the world - it was cosmic in scope. This is the dogmatic teaching of both the Catholic and the Orthodox Churches.

The creation story in Genesis, of the two of them, the one that deals with Adam and Eve, can be, by good Christians, accepted as purely allegorical. Our first ancestors disobeyed God in some way, and thus we have original sin.

Again, not what the Church teaches. This was a common heresy committed by the early gnostics. I believe Origen was excommunicated because of his free interpretation of Genesis. This may fly with gnostics, kabbalists, Jungians and Jordan Peterson but it's not a Christian interpretation.

From a scientific perspective, the universe is billions of years old and stars have winked out of existence before man first drew breath.

Where's the evidence of that? Is this real science at all or just Carl DeGrasse Dawkins story time for scientismo goobers? Has this been demonstrated using the scientific method? Why would a Christian take this wild speculation about what happened billions of years ago (which is based on pure faith and baseless assumptions of the nature of the universe btw) and prefer it to God's own revelation?