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no, mass is an intrinsic and inexorable property of all matter.

Mass is fiction. It can't even be defined properly. It is a figment of the imagination, and exists only in equation. It is not a coincidence that when you combine it with the other fictional term, "gravitational acceleration", it returns to the real weight it began and was measured as in the first place :)

I feel much the same way about mass as you seem to feel about "gravity" (though perplexingly, miraculous perpetual acceleration applied to mass to create weight - which is gravitational acceleration / little g - doesn't seem to bother you).

Weight is the adjustment to mass caused by other forces, like buoyancy, your mass is the same, but you weight less in the pool.

It sounds like we have similar views on this. I use the terms "intrinsic weight" (weight without buoyancy) and "effective weight" (weight with buoyancy).

or by centrifical force, the mass is the same, but while spinning, the weight is much higher.

So you would say that someone weighs more when they land on the ground after jumping (and/or weighs less at the apex)? I would say they weigh the same and apply an impact force (as a parallel to your centrifuge example).

do you have other reason besides that?

I think that is reason enough, but the word is not just used by scientists. Long before the scientific method existed or scientists, the word gravity and the natural law of the same name was known and used by significant numbers of people. That very much includes today. There is no reason to get rid of a perfectly good word and sound concept. Otherwise we have to rename the law of gravity into something else (for starters), and this only causes more confusion among scientists and laypersons alike (most everyone we might speak with).

Gravity is NOT a force. its not what makes you fall.

True, and this is what needs to be clarified/corrected. Gravity is a natural law - the phenomenon of falling, known for millennia - nothing more. Natural laws do not and cannot include causes for themselves. That is what theory is for.

The theory (actually a pseudo theory erroneously billed as a law itself - the "force" - pseudo force in point of fact) is called gravitation. The law can never be conflated with the theory contrived to explain it, and to do so is an attack on science.

1 year ago
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no, mass is an intrinsic and inexorable property of all matter.

Mass is fiction. It can't even be defined properly. It is a figment of the imagination, and exists only in equation. It is not a coincidence that when you combine it with the other fictional term, "gravitational acceleration", it returns to the real weight it began and was measured as in the first place :)

I feel much the same way about mass as you seem to feel about "gravity" (though perplexingly, miraculous perpetual acceleration applied to mass to create weight - which is gravitational acceleration / little g - doesn't seem to bother you).

Weight is the adjustment to mass caused by other forces, like buoyancy, your mass is the same, but you weight less in the pool.

It sounds like we have similar views on this. I use the terms "intrinsic weight" (weight without buoyancy) and "effective weight" (weight with buoyancy).

or by centrifical force, the mass is the same, but while spinning, the weight is much higher.

So you would say that someone weighs more when they land on the ground after jumping (and/or weighs less at the apex)? I would say they weigh the same and apply an impact force (as an parallel to your centrifuge example).

do you have other reason besides that?

I think that is reason enough, but the word is not just used by scientists. Long before the scientific method existed or scientists, the word gravity and the natural law of the same name was known and used by significant numbers of people. That very much includes today. There is no reason to get rid of a perfectly good word and sound concept. Otherwise we have to rename the law of gravity into something else (for starters), and this only causes more confusion among scientists and laypersons alike (most everyone we might speak with).

Gravity is NOT a force. its not what makes you fall.

True, and this is what needs to be clarified/corrected. Gravity is a natural law - the phenomenon of falling, known for millennia - nothing more. Natural laws do not and cannot include causes for themselves. That is what theory is for.

The theory (actually a pseudo theory erroneously billed as a law itself - the "force" - pseudo force in point of fact) is called gravitation. The law can never be conflated with the theory contrived to explain it, and to do so is an attack on science.

1 year ago
1 score