Upgrading with what? Some electronics shit that adds nothing to reliability if not worsen it? Catalysators to the tanks exhaust? Replacing glass optics with camera and LCD?
hypersonics being shot down.
It's impossible with anything today. If you have something that maneuver at hypersonic speed, no existing system could do that. You need hypersonic missile more meneurable than hypersonic target and have at least same speed.
Seems nobody here get the main thing about Russian hypersonic missiles. Main thing is not that they are hypersonic. Main thing that they constantly maneuver approacing the target at hypersonic speed. That was the main breakthrough and main achievement, not their speed. Many ballistic missiles have hypersonic speed approacing the target. But they could be easily shot down because their trajectory is completely predictable. Just blow something with ton of nails on the trajectory, ant hypersonic ballistic missile is done. Same with 60s variants of hypersonic cruise missiles. They are fast, but can't maneuver at that speed.
Maneuverring at hypersonic speed is very complex problem. It was more complex than solving problems with maneuverabiliyt that appear with transition from subsonic to supersonic speed. Same thing with supersonic to hypersonic. Old tricks does not work at all. And this is the key feature of hypersonic missiles. They are unpredictable. You can't catch them with a trick that works with ballistic missiles, that are hypersonic too. You could blow something on its way, when it is dozens miles away, but it just will not pass that cloud of debris. And since it moves too fast and change course also too fast, no existing AD system can even reliably target and track them. Even S700 that is in development had no success in shooting maneurable hypersonic targets, AD missiles have to be much more maneurable than target at at least the similar speed and for hypersonic speeds it is a very complex problem.
You could shoot AD missiles randomly, in the hope it occasionally hit the target, but as a circus with Patriot in Kiev shown, that does not help at all. Yes, I know that Patrion is far from gold standard of AD, but things will not be any different with any other system including S*00s.
Laser systems have a chance, but there is no radars fast enough to make tracking of hypersonic possible to target laser beam on the hypersonic for noticeabe time to burn it through. And all that weather things like clouds, fog and rain with snow don't make things easier for laser weapons.
And that retarded Russian missiles use old style inertial targeting, so to jam their targeting system you have to invent something that changes gravity and inetrtial mass. TR3B anyone?
Meanwhile factories globally are manufacturing increasing arms and munitions.
And still can't produce fucking dumb 152mm shells for only reliable howitzers that really work on battlefield.
I see that as something completely insane and as a giant flashing sign with "something is totally wrong!" text on it.
NATO could make as many 155mm shells as it want, but there no single 155mm howitzer that could survive long enough to utilise them. But at the same time each old soviet howitzers from 60s easily shoot 152mm shells in quantities more than all NATO howitzers cobined shoot during that war in total. And they, suddenly, don't need maintenance, they don't freeze in winter and overheat in summer, their optical sight don't need batteries and electronics replacement after the rain or ford. They just shoot, as howitzers should do.
There is something broken in the core of Western MIC. It can produce "advanced" weapons, overcomplicated, with bells and whistles, but completely unable to make reliable, working ones. They make Lamborginis and Bentleys instead of Toyota 4WD pickups with lifted suspension, completly ignoring all that mud and lack of roads.
Western car and agricultural machinery industry have similar problem. Even web development suffer from that bells and wistles problem, It is something very wrong in the very core of all Western industry. If presentability and modernity becomes much more important that reliability, repairability and simplicity, than it is regress, not progress.
Sell more and replace stock.
That is the main goal - sell more. Nothing else matters. Don't you see a huge and fatal problem here?
And you didn't name anything that could be named modern western weapons that have some really useful features of the scale of maneuverability at hypersonic speeds. Force shields? Completely new propulsion system? Adamantium or neutron matter? Anything?
PS: And meanwhile, radiation levels in Khmelnitsky seems have new background level. https://redata.jrc.ec.europa.eu/chart/timeseries/daily/UA33429 Stays around 0.15 uSv/h since May 12 with same variations as earlier. Seems sensor is fine. So, only two possibilities left - some local uranium glass vase near sensor or something slightly radioactive was blown with warehouse.
Upgrading with what? Some electronics shit that adds nothing to reliability if not worsen it? Catalysators to the tanks exhaust? Replacing glass optics with camera and LCD?
hypersonics being shot down.
It's impossible with anything today. If you have something that maneuver at hypersonic speed, no existing system could do that. You need hypersonic missile more meneurable than hypersonic target and have at least same speed.
Seems nobody here get the main thing about Russian hypersonic missiles. Main thing is not that they are hypersonic. Main thing that they constantly maneuver approacing the target at hypersonic speed. That was the main breakthrough and main achievement, not their speed. Many ballistic missiles have hypersonic speed approacing the target. But they could be easily shot down because their trajectory is completely predictable. Just blow something with ton of nails on the trajectory, ant hypersonic ballistic missile is done. Same with 60s variants of hypersonic cruise missiles. They are fast, but can't maneuver at that speed.
Maneuverring at hypersonic speed is very complex problem. It was more complex than solving problems with maneuverabiliyt that appear with transition from subsonic to supersonic speed. Same thing with supersonic to hypersonic. Old tricks does not work at all. And this is the key feature of hypersonic missiles. They are unpredictable. You can't catch them with a trick that works with ballistic missiles, that are hypersonic too. You could blow something on its way, when it is dozens miles away, but it just will not pass that cloud of debris. And since it moves too fast and change course also too fast, no existing AD system can even reliably target and track them. Even S700 that is in development had no success in shooting maneurable hypersonic targets, AD missiles have to be much more maneurable than target at at least the similar speed and for hypersonic speeds it is a very complex problem.
You could shoot AD missiles randomly, in the hope it occasionally hit the target, but as a circus with Patriot in Kiev shown, that does not help at all. Yes, I know that Patrion is far from gold standard of AD, but things will not be any different with any other system including S*00s.
Laser systems have a chance, but there is no radars fast enough to make tracking of hypersonic possible to target laser beam on the hypersonic for noticeabe time to burn it through. And all that weather things like clouds, fog and rain with snow don't make things easier for laser weapons.
And that retarded Russian missiles use old style inertial targeting, so to jam their targeting system you have to invent something that changes gravity and inetrtial mass. TR3B anyone?
Meanwhile factories globally are manufacturing increasing arms and munitions.
And still can't produce fucking dumb 152mm shells for only reliable howitzers that really work on battlefield.
I see that as something completely insane and as a giant flashing sign with "something is totally wrong!" text on it.
NATO could make as many 155mm shells as it want, but there no single 155mm howitzer that could survive long enough to utilise them. But at the same time each old soviet howitzers from 60s easily shoot 152mm shells in quantities more than all NATO howitzers cobined shoot during that war in total. And they, suddenly, don't need maintenance, they don't freeze in winter and overheat in summer, their optical sight don't need batteries and electronics replacement after the rain or ford. They just shoot, as howitzers should do.
There is something broken in the core of Western MIC. It can produce "advanced" weapons, overcomplicated, with bells and whistles, but completely unable to make reliable, working ones. They make Lamborginis and Bentleys instead of Toyota 4WD pickups with lifted suspension, completly ignoring all that mud and lack of roads.
Western car and agricultural machinery industry have similar problem. Even web development suffer from that bells and wistles problem, It is something very wrong in the very core of all Western industry. If presentability and modernity becomes much more important that reliability, repairability and simplicity, than it is regress, not progress.
Sell more and replace stock.
That is the main goal - sell more. Nothing else matters. Don't you see a huge and fatal problem here?
And you didn't name anything that could be named modern western weapons that have some really useful features of the scale of maneuverability at hypersonic speeds. Force shields? Completely new propulsion system? Adamantium or neutron matter? Anything?