So, do you believe that it's an accurate count and creation happened at that point in the past?

It does not matter what point in time some choose as a zero. It does not matter is that point real or mythical. The only thing that is important is that everybody who use that calendar agree to use the same point as a base.

You are the one claiming that Russians existed 4500 years ago. It's up to you to provide evidence and definition, not me.

Again and again. Are you retarded or what? "Russians" in English could mean ethnicity or citizenship. If you are not aware, it is absolutely different things. You continuously deny to clarify what exactly you mean saying "Russians". Why? What could be the problem with that for you?

I mean etnicity when I talk about Russians, because citizenship means nothing.

So from the ethnic point of view, yes, Russians perfectly existed thousands years ago with their own settlements, language, culture and genetic.

From the citizenship point of view, no there was no definite country named "Russia" in 2409BC, since Russians lived far from others and there was no need to define any distinct borders at the time.

As a kind of state Russia(Rus) was formed around 1500-1800 years ago with centers in Novgorod, Kiev, Rostov, Suzdal and others. There still was no any real equipped borders at the time, but all the land that contained all that Russian towns already accounted as belonging to Russians. Russian towns ruled by dukes who often have tensions with each other, but easily united against external threat.

"Russians" in English could mean ethnicity or citizenship. If you are not aware, it is absolutely different things. You continuously deny to clarify what exactly you mean saying "Russians". Why? What could be the problem with that for you?

So from the ethnic point of view, yes, Russians perfectly existed thousands years ago with their own settlements, language, culture and genetic.

From the citizenship point of view, no there was no definite country named "Russia" in 2409BC, since Russians lived far from others and there was no need to define any distinct borders at the time.

As a kind of state Russia(Rus) was formed around 1500-1800 years ago with centers in Novgorod, Kiev, Rostov, Suzdal and others. There still was no any real equipped borders at the time, but all the land that contained all that Russian towns already accounted as belonging to Russians. Russian towns ruled by dukes who often have tensions with each other, but easily united against external threat.