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First you say, undeniably that Russia isn't using Western microprocessors, and semiconductors

I said that after sanctions installed in 2014 Russia get rid of using Western microprocessors and semiconductors in warfare.

I never said that Russia never used Western microprocessors and semiconductors.

The point is that westerns sanctions does not reach their goal of doing harm for Russia MIC. They do opposite - made Russian MIC independent from Western microprocessors and semiconductors, and now West have no any levers to push.

What was the purpose of that sanctions?

If they try to go to China, it has also largely been cut off from Western chips.

Do you understand, that there are nearly no Western chips anymore? I hope there is still some factories in US and Europe that make military grade ICs, but those that at open market at the best made in Taiwan or Philipines. But most popular and mass chips made in China, on China factories by China workers. And they gladly will made a surplus batch on the same line with same masks if there will be good deal at black market? China don't give a fuck about all that IP, license and patent crap.

Sure they can make horrible clones

Interesting, that "clones", China and even Russian have better characteristics than originals. They are faster and more tolerant for voltages. Really, they are not clones, they are similar devices that made pin-compatible with popular western ICs with purpose. Internals are different. It is not 80s now, when you had to slice a crystal to make a copy, to save years of handwork of designing chip from the ground. Now it is a matter of weeks to make a similar MCU with modern workflow.

Stop that crap about chips, looks like you know nothing about electronics. You are talking with the person who developed a lot of electronic devices (including ones that was made completely from pure Russian parts, including microprocessors) and perfectly know how all that electronic stuff works, how it is made, what is really important and what is overhyped marketing bullshi and what is going on on semiconductor markets right now.

But neither are up to the level which is always decade's ahead of the market.

I don't see any progress in that decade. I'm use decade old PC that is perfectly fast for every single task I need, including browsing that overbloated internet sites. It is a question of software, not hardware now. You have no real word tasks that will demand and could really utilise something newer than 10-15 years old semiconductors. Moore law does not work anymore. There is no any significant progress in semiconductors.

The West also starts making its own shit again. Highend for the brand new industrialised era it imagines. Where it's suddenly automating all its industry.

Nice. Is that what in NWO agenda?

You Mongols can go back to tilling the fields and bathing in oil.

And to building own space stations, supersonic passenger planes (fuck that western ecology shit and fake noise restrictions, yes), cars, trucks, electronics and other stuff, utilising our own resources. Doesn't look bad at all.

Is that NWO agenda?

Forced demand, why? Both profit, it isn't black and white sides, but whole ton of agenda and schemes, facilitating the demand to cause?

So, how it aligned with NWO, if there will be multiple different and independent orders, that will not give a fuck about that western worldwide agenda?

2 years ago
1 score
Reason: Original

First you say, undeniably that Russia isn't using Western microprocessors, and semiconductors

I said that after sanctions installed in 2014 Russia get rid of using Western microprocessors and semiconductors in warfare.

I never said that Russia never used Western microprocessors and semiconductors.

The point is that westerns sanctions does not reach their goal of doing harm for Russia MIC. They do opposite - made Russian MIC independent from Western microprocessors and semiconductors, and now West have no any levers to push.

What was the purpose of that sanctions?

If they try to go to China, it has also largely been cut off from Western chips.

Do you understand, that there are nearly no Western chips anymore? I hope there is still some factories in US and Europe that make military grade ICs, but those that at open market at the best made in Taiwan or Philipines. But most popular and mass chips made in China, on China factories by China workers. And they gladly will made a surplus batch on the same line with same masks if there will be good deal at black market? China don't give a fuck about all that IP, license and patent crap.

Sure they can make horrible clones

Interesting, that "clones", China and even Russian have better characteristics than originals. They are faster and more tolerant for voltages. Really, they are not clones, they are similar devices that made pin-compatible with popular western ICs with purpose. Internals are different. It is not 80s now, when you had to slice a crystal to make a copy, to save years of handwork of designing chip from the ground. Now it is a matter of weeks to make a similar MCU with modern workflow.

Stop that crap about chips, looks like you know nothing about electronics. You are talking with the person who developed a lot of electronic devices (including ones that was made completely from pure Russian parts, including microprocessors) and perfectly know how all that electronic stuff works and what is going on on semiconductor markets.

But neither are up to the level which is always decade's ahead of the market.

I don't see any progress in that decade. I'm use decade old PC that is perfectly fast for every single task I need, including browsing that overbloated internet sites. It is a question of software, not hardware now. You have no real word tasks that will demand and could really utilise something newer than 10-15 years old semiconductors. Moore law does not work anymore. There is no any significant progress in semiconductors.

The West also starts making its own shit again. Highend for the brand new industrialised era it imagines. Where it's suddenly automating all its industry.

Nice. Is that what in NWO agenda?

You Mongols can go back to tilling the fields and bathing in oil.

And to building own space stations, supersonic passenger planes (fuck that western ecology shit and fake noise restrictions, yes), cars, trucks, electronics and other stuff, utilising our own resources. Doesn't look bad at all.

Is that NWO agenda?

Forced demand, why? Both profit, it isn't black and white sides, but whole ton of agenda and schemes, facilitating the demand to cause?

So, how it aligned with NWO, if there will be multiple different and independent orders, that will not give a fuck about that western worldwide agenda?

2 years ago
1 score