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Good luck explaining to me how this is explainable. There are hundreds of electrical substations and internet service providers between South Dakota, Florida and Texas. If true, it further demonstrates how truly fragile our entire infrastructure is. After you explain it to me reasonably. (media.scored.co)
posted 1 year ago by pkvi_halfkdeltaxsq 1 year ago by pkvi_halfkdeltaxsq +13 / -3
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– CrazyRussian 5 points 1 year ago +6 / -1

Not that complex.

Phone service today still use very outdated signalling system named SS7. This is centralized system, so if you have some country-wide service, then there should be some single switch station that will route all calls to that service.

It is not like internet, when system allow point-to-point connections through the shortest route, when connection from one subnetwork does not goes further than closest router.

Reason why that retarded SS7 is not abandoned long ago is a big mistery. Something like if cabmans didn't abandon theri horses and cabs when everybody else already switched to cars.

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– pkvi_halfkdeltaxsq [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

If the system is archaic, then it likely has basic redundancies across that wide of an area, thousands of miles, so how could it be that centralized with one line down? Seems technologically impossible.

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– CrazyRussian 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Problem that telephony drag that SS7 with it regardless of used media. It was used on raw copper, digital data over fiber or radiowaves, now they use internet to run their SS7 rituals and looks like that mammoth shit will be used on any further tech.

F.e. it is obvious that today things like "roaming" or "interstate calls" have absolutely no any sense. But teiephonists still sticking to all that senseless crap for mo any technical reason.

If you are not aware, when you use your cellphone to make calls from outside of your "local area", your call routed through phone network via your "local area" phone switch, even if you on the other side of Earth calling to nearby restaraunt to reserve a table.

That's really so insane, that nobody could imagine all that crap telephonists still pracrticise. And that is why there are no any wonder that a single broken line could ruin some phone service for the whole country and even a world.

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– ceva 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Because one line down severs the connection that supplies multiple sources. It's probably one of the most technologically possible setups.

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– pkvi_halfkdeltaxsq [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

But we are talking about a public infrastructure, built over a period of time, that is suppling the length of Nevada to South Dakota to Texas to Florida. Our electrical grid does not even do that. There are hundreds of internet service providers between those points.

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– ceva 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yes, and fortunately for electricity it can travel through multiple channels easily. Information does not have that luxury.

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– pkvi_halfkdeltaxsq [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

As a person who has worked in IT, you could not be more wrong.

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– ceva 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

lol like that’s a qualifier

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– aldagautr 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

911 radio in my area, which covers several cities, relies on one VLAN coming down one fiber path. Motorola won't let it be routed, because they're retarded, I suppose. If that fiber path has issues, we have to re-route the VLAN. I suppose we could trunk it down several paths, but STP is unreliable, and we've had issues in the past. So that's our policy. If they won't let us route it, they can deal with however long it's down until an engineer can re-route it.

it's not that hard to explain if you actually know how this kind of shit works.

it's wild that such a wide area is covered by a similar setup, yet with no redundancy.

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– pkvi_halfkdeltaxsq [S] 0 points 1 year ago +1 / -1

not hard to explain

wild such a wide area

Apparently it is hard to explain bcz again, one line cut, thousands of miles down. That is just now how these systems work even with poor redundancies.

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– aldagautr 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I just explained it. The systems are shit. It's not some conspiracy.

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– pkvi_halfkdeltaxsq [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

not some conspiracy

Never say that as a rule. Every thing at scale always has potential until you know for certain. Always keep an open mind.

A man might burn his aging home down for the insurance money can be as simple of a manipulative explanation some times. Gov has been known to ruin some thing so as to force peasants to pay for an overpriced lobbied cash grab replacement.

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– ceva 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

One time a waiter forgot my drink order.

It must be a conspiracy to get me distracted...

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– pkvi_halfkdeltaxsq [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Just maybe.

May.. .. .. ..be

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– ceva 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Nah

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