The dead sea scrolls genius... They are definitive scientific proof of a jewish kingdom existing there thousands of years ago.
What does that prove? That jews were there at the time those were written. It doesn't prove any Biblical right they have over that land as it being given to them by God. But I consent that it can be objectively established that a jewish kingdom existed thousands of years ago.
Earlier you said conquest is no longer valid "after world war 2".... Like how dumb do you have to be to swallow that propaganda?!
I never said I believe this bs because apparently I'm aware this principle has been contradicted multiple times since the end of WWII. What I said is it's hypocritical for the zionist powers to shower us with such propaganda while making conquests like the establishment of Israel. These are their definitions and their reading of history, not mine. Are you seriously that stupid not to see I'm doing internal critique of their narrative in our little argument? I don't believe morals change or evolve - right has always been right and vice versa.
Next it's stupid because world war 2 was the ultimate affirmation of right of conquest, not the abolishment of it.
The zionist powers paradigm is what you'll find in the history textbooks and it goes like what I said before - "SHTF during WWII and we need to create a new world order that will prevent this from ever happening again. That's why we'll establish the UN and other transnational institutions that will keep the peace and civility in this new world". All the normies believe this. This is what they've been taught about XXc history - "the bad militarist guys were defeated and we lived happily ever after in our free market globo-homo liberal democratic brave new world".
Then clearly it wouldn't be right for Palestinians to take it over by force in the future, right?
They are still there though. It's right for them to defend their home. But if the kikes slaughter them all and 2000 years later Palestinians come back and go "you know, we were here before and you conquered us so we want the land back" they can fuck off because making claims on a land you inhabited 2000 years ago, along with many other peoples before and after you, is retarded.
You kept demanding proof of who was there first. That's your proof, idiot. It's the jews. The jews were there first.
I conceded that. But it doesn't matter who was there first, although you and idiot zionists seem to think it does.
Then it's also right of Israel to defend their home and to kill the people trying to take it from them...
It wasn't their home 70 years ago. Is it right for someone to break in your house and kill your family because they now decided it's their house? Oh, but your ancestors some hundred years ago killed their ancestors who owned it initially, so it's justified. Try passing that in court.
You can't seem to realize if every nation decided they should get their historic territories back the civilized world will quickly cease to exist. Such policy reduces ad absurdum. War is not what it used to be.
What does that prove? That jews were there at the time those were written. It doesn't prove any Biblical right they have over that land as it being given to them by God. But I consent that it can be objectively established that a jewish kingdom existed thousands of years ago.
I never said I believe this bs because apparently I'm aware this principle has been contradicted multiple times since the end of WWII. What I said is it's hypocritical for the zionist powers to shower us with such propaganda while making conquests like the establishment of Israel. These are their definitions and their reading of history, not mine. Are you seriously that stupid not to see I'm doing internal critique of their narrative in our little argument? I don't believe morals change or evolve - right has always been right and vice versa.
The zionist powers paradigm is what you'll find in the history textbooks and it goes like what I said before - "SHTF during WWII and we need to create a new world order that will prevent this from ever happening again. That's why we'll establish the UN and other transnational institutions that will keep the peace and civility in this new world". All the normies believe this. This is what they've been taught about XXc history - "the bad militarist guys were defeated and we lived happily ever after in our free market globo-homo liberal democratic brave new world".
They are still there though. It's right for them to defend their home. But if the kikes slaughter them all and 2000 years later Palestinians come back and go "you know, we were here before and you conquered us so we want the land back" they can fuck off because making claims on a land you inhabited 2000 years ago, along with many other peoples before and after you, is retarded.
I conceded that. But it doesn't matter who was there first, although you and idiot zionists seem to think it does.
It wasn't their home 70 years ago. Is it right for someone to break in your house and kill your family because they now decided it's their house? Oh, but your ancestors some hundred years ago killed their ancestors who owned it initially, so it's justified. Try passing that in court.
You can't seem to realize if every nation decided they should get their historic territories back the civilized world will quickly cease to exist. Such policy reduces ad absurdum. War is not what it used to be.