[part 2 of text transcript from Arizona Wilder speaking at Conspiracy Con 2003 in Santa Clara, California. 1hr37min]

you're going to eat it, and that is what happens, this is basic training, left in a room, and ignored, you're understimulated, you're sensory deprived, left in a room, with blankets tied around you so you can't move, you don't know what time of day is because maybe you're blindfolded, you're left that way, and then you're overstimulated, and everyone acts like nothing is happening, this isn't even happening because the adults around you don't talk about it, they never say a word, life goes on around you, and it's ignored, and you're ignored, you feel crazy, you feel like this cannot be happening, it must not be real, I'm not real, this is real, maybe both, this is crazy making, and this causes a child who has the ability to go inside themselves, to disassociate and start creating their own little world, the seed is planted, because they need you to have an inside world, because they're going to spend a lot of time in that inside world, that they're going to take that seed and they're going to make create all of these inside scenarios, this is how you create multiple personalities, this is a very early training, this sets the scene, this lets you know that anything can happen anytime, about the age of five, they start training you for what they want you to be doing, they have realized your tendencies, they've studied your reactions, and they will start training you for what role it is you're going to have. About that time, there's a little marriage ceremony for a child, the child is married into the particular group, organized perpetrator group, you can call it that, you can call it cult, the child is married into it, and they are given a ring. Today, on my little finger, on this hand, I have that little ring, it is a child's ring, I don't know anyone else that has saved it, there are others that have run across it, when they were older it is passed to them again to remind them, and they have thrown it out. I chose to save it, because I want to talk about it, and I want people to know these things are real, this ring has blood stains on it, it has a bar sinister on a crest on the side, and that is indicative of bloodline, there are others that have a swing out there. They start involving you in rituals, they start watching you, they watch your reaction, they push you to be as involved as they can get you to be, in the ritual, they will hold your hand on a knife, when they do sacrifice. This is so horrific for a child, that they really have a hard time remembering, this is some deeper layer that goes inside the child. I was involved in all of these things, I am not the only one, there are others, all children are brought up like this, it makes you part of the group, and they tell you, you're one of us, you're just like us. Everything that's done at a ritual, child is involved in, it is very hard to be at a ritual, and see other people being hurt. It's hard enough when you are, but you know you can zero in on yourself and go away, but when you are helpless, watching others be tortured and seeing what they do there, it's very painful, and it is, I don't even, at this point I still could not fully describe to you how it feels, it's horrific. In these rituals, the number of participants is very important, whether they are using male or female energy is important, there are some groups that only imply male energy, there are others that only imply female energy, and there are others that do both, and maybe one or the other for specific occasion, there are children who are bred and born only to be sacrificed at some point in their lives, that is their purpose, there are so many children whose births are not recorded, I worked with a nurse midwife, and we did home births, she wasn't part of any of this, but if she was upset with somebody, she didn't record the birth, and the parents had problems by the time that child had to go to school, it was a practically impossible situation. All of these listening cults, which are really down at the bottom under the Illuminati, have homes where these children stay in our school in a private system, these children are used in snuff films, par films, ritual sacrifice, they are light slaves, and they disappear, some of them go underground, I mean literally to underground cities, never to come back up, some are food, they are food source, they are an energy source, that's all they are. I went through all of this training when I was, till I was about 12 years old, then I started being marooned again to be among gods, there are only three alive on the planet at a time, another goddess is someone who is maiden, mother, and chrome, the maiden embodies fury, the mother embodies the strength, and the chrome embodies the wisdom and the knowledge. There are others that have other roles to play, but this specifically was my role, my role at a ritual, thus to bring down what they call the ancient ones, the old ones from the fourth dimension, to be a literal channel, through which this being discarded entity would come, and they would beg to stay here, they did not like where they were, they wanted to be in this physical realm, some of them were brought down, or I should say many, were brought down and anchored here, and they have to be anchored here with blood sacrifice. So at these rituals, there were of course, sacrifice in which someone was killed, or persons were killed, they have to be, so I've read from those that have an argument with what I say, that any blood, the sacrifice is a willing participant, well yes, that's true, those that are willing don't know they're going to be sacrificed, they are raised and told what they're doing isn't on, they are being honored. In order to have the adrenal chrome come out in the blood, which is what the reptilians need, those that take human form, and they need the adrenal chrome to keep it, to extend their abilities to for a little while have some more psychic ability, they need the adrenal chrome the only way that the adrenal chrome can come into the blood, the way that they need it is for someone to be tortured and traumatized in a long, drawn out way, and that is what they need. When that happens, there's approximately 10 cc's in the adrenal chrome that will be coming out into the blood street, and that is what the person that this happens to, they're not told, beat their hands, that they are going to die, this is why they're willing. They also utilize menstrual blood, my name within this system, one of my names is Starfire, which is pure female essence. I'm not the only one they utilize it from, but that just happens to open my name because of my role. The menstrual blood that they utilize is, they drink it a lot, it helps them retain some youth, because the human genetics age faster, than the reptilian genetics, and they're trying to balance it out. I believe also they are trying to balance their own minds out. When I brought down the old ones, they were put in a little circle, that's where I directed them, and this circle was marked off, with the points of north, south, east, and west. If you were going to do something like this, you would be bringing them down from a certain area, it might be from the north, that's going to bring down certain type of energy, or the west, or the south, these are the cardinal points, these are what you bring down. There are specific tones that create vibrations that these energies respond to, and there are certain words that have to be said. This is what they respond to, and they are so ferocious, their presence is overwhelming, and they would love nothing more than to get loose here, and that was my role, to keep that from happening. These energies would be loose upon the group that was there, they were afraid of them, and these things have to be controlled, and that is what I did, that was my role, and I sent them back again. Sometimes an entity would be brought down to go into someone's body, because there really is a possession going on, and you can call it possession of a demon, you can call it possession of a discarded entity, possession of a reptilian, that does happen, and the person that hosts it will cease to exist, that essence will be dissolved at some point. My role as a mother goddess was to be present at certain births, at a birth it was either a sacrifice or it was a blessing, a mother goddess, her lifeline are the number of years that she is supposed to exist in service of the Illuminati's fifty-two years of age, they have a short lifespan, when they are thirty-nine years old, they are supposed to be impregnated, specifically with a female, when that female is thirteen, and the mother is fifty-two, and she has been training that child, that child will sacrifice the mother in a ritual and take over her role, so let's see, I'm forty-eight, but I don't have a child to take over, because they did do that to me when I was thirty-nine, but I did the unthinkable, I was warned by someone that this was going to happen to me, and I said, you know what, it's not going to happen, I'm not playing with their plan, I'm not going along with it, I'm not doing this. And I'm still standing here today on the other side of that line and I'm talking about it, I think that people need to understand how hard it is for someone who is trying to get out of this thing, so I would like to talk about that, because I had a hard time, getting out of this, I was married, my marriage was set up, I have two children that were set up, they wanted me to have another, I foiled that, I've basically done a problem, but that's my purpose, I started having some severe flashbacks when I was 31, 32, after the birth of my daughter, and I always knew that something was wrong in my life, when you are dissociative, your world is bearing air down, it's like having many boxes inside of your head, and you're only in one box at a time, and when you're in that box, you only know about that box, and then you're in another box, and it's like nothing else exists, you have different sets of clothing, you have different tastes, you like different people, and some people you hate that the other part didn't hate, you have different experiences that you can't remember, or it seems like a dream, because there is some leakage of one dissociative state to another at times, so my world is bearing air down, but I always knew something was wrong, I was a very depressed at times, I was moody, I did things, I didn't know why I was doing them, there were big gaps in my memory, but I took it for granted, I thought everyone was like that, I thought everyone had nightmares, I thought everyone had just severe depressions where they wanted to die, I thought everybody did little things to hurt themselves when they didn't feel good, and to make it all go away, I thought everybody never cried, in 1988 I started questioning some things that were said to me, my parents are very very programmed, and they really were watching me, and they didn't, they don't know, they still don't know, it took me a long time to realize that they weren't evil, bad people, they're programmed, it took me a long time to realize that about my sisters, they still don't have a clue, and they're not happy people, I had flashbacks of mysterious, you know, just seeing part of a ritual, and I think, what is that? I had flashbacks of men and gray coats around me, I had flashbacks of military, I had flashbacks of underground places, I didn't know what it meant, I started drawing, I drew things, I took a lot of time, because I couldn't write, I didn't even know what to write about, there was nothing in my head to write about, so I drew, and I drew with my left hand, and I drew with my right hand, this connects the left and right sides of the brain, I drew with my hands crossed, I drew with both hands at the same time, and it didn't matter what I drew, things started to come out, when I started to do all of this, my family began to pressure me, why are you doing this? There's nothing that happened to you, why you just need attention, you just want attention, so they started pressuring me, because that's the program, this is a family unit, we're breaking it up, and they're told, you know, Arizona is breaking up your unit, you're all going to never be the same again, there's going to be a lot of pain, so they start pressuring you, all of those parts that they have start to pressure, because they don't want to hurt, they know that there is pain, they don't know why they know that, they just know, I had no support from my family, because they couldn't support me, I had no friends, families like this, they're very apart from others, they're very isolative, so what I did is I went into therapy, memories are layered, the first thing that comes out is your sexual abuse by the family member, friend, relative, that's what comes out, that's the way it's supposed to come out, you're supposed to be horrified and go, thank God, this is what it is, this is what it was the whole time, in my case, and there are others that go on after this, that isn't enough, it does, it's still not right, and because I drew, and this is what I believe because I drew pictures, and because those of me that couldn't say it, could draw it. Other things started coming out. I drew pictures of rituals and I thought I was crazy because I didn't know where it was coming from. I'd never seen anything like it. I've never seen it on television. I've never read about anything like it. But that's when I started trying to find some books on the subject and they had just started coming out. My family accused me of getting it from the books even though it was there before I ever saw the books. What came on the end of that were the memories about being around beings at military bases, being around military, being around intelligence. At the time I couldn't figure out how it was all connected. It seemed to be very separate things. And I was myself very disconnected. All of those parts that I had were disconnected. And I really didn't want to talk about reptilians to the therapist or the psychiatrist because I did not want to be accused of being psychotic. Yet there they were in the rituals. I talked with other people that were having those memories also. They didn't want to talk about it either. But then some of them just figured it was drugs that they were given. Some of them figured they were being fooled with something dressed up in costumes. I had to go through all my