But, you do not have the right to abuse and threaten other users here. You also do not have the right to incite violence. Whether that be upon other users here or people at large. You can call people names all you want, even though you shouldn't (You should attack the argument, not the user/person), but you can.
However, telling someone to straight up kill themselves will not be tolerated as that was the original rule when I joined the mods ranks. Attack the argument, not the person. I'm not going to tolerate that shit and you will be temp banned. Other mods can chime in or PM me about it if they agree or disagree.
We are supposed to be a community here who help each other spread and seek truth. The only people I can see doing this type of negativity here are nefarious forces that are against those of us who wish for a better future. If you see comments like these, report them. I'm not talking about name calling... I'm talking about straight up calls to violence and abuse of other users here.
Yea, I just went through pages of the mod queue and that's literally all that user would post. Damn near contributing nothing, or if they did, they would end it with that bullshit. Really not sure Clems allowed that here or why they looked the other way. I have no idea who that mod is, tbh. I trust Axo, but, yea... Not looking too good on Clems part.
In my experience here most users have been demanding free speech and zero censorship of the mods here, contrary to their experience on reddit. So I only banned outright trolls and obvious spammers - users who only come here because they hate this website and all it's users for whatever reason (they are very easy to spot), and users who just spam self promotion or bots etc. All other discussion I permitted if it didn't seem illegal.
I personally find it a bit strange that users are all of a sudden happy for Tallestskill to be banned for his comments when they are such big proponents of free speech and anti-censorship. You will note that you are talking to a handshake account - it's likely one of the trolls who returns here time and again, like the "topMinds" or "Conspiritard" crowd.
I am also one of the original people who came here from reddit, and I have actively participated since then, And you can check my posting history to confirm that.
What makes me not trust you is your 5 day old account, yet speaking like you are a regular user here. If you truly were a regular user here, why didn't you start to participate when tallest skill was banned for almost two years? He was banned pretty early on in this forums history, and only unbanned relatively recently.
If you had an old account you previously participated on, what was it? If not, what you have described is that at best you are a sometime-lurker.
I'm going to be very fuckin' blunt with you... not sure when the fuck you were made a mod here, but the rules have always been the same. Attack the argument, not the user. Abusing other users here was never tolerated, nor will it ever be. I don't give one fuck if you think it's the "classical liberal sense" or it's a "figure of speech". Sounds like bullshit coming from someone who wants to harbor that shit here. What would be the purpose of that? What would be the purpose of letting someone like that user run amuck?
Furthermore, I don't need you to try to inform (or enlighten) me about who I may or may not be speaking to.
People want free speech, but, they also don't want to be constantly berated and told to kill themselves. May seem normal to you and your generation of COD online gamers, but, most people don't.
I was here before you, and I guaran-fuckin-tee you I will be here longer than you. I ain't happy with what I've been seeing here, tbh.
I'm sorry, but like many users have pointed out, we currently have no rules here, beyond what the the admin have laid out. What your describing are the general rules of effective debate, which I totally agree with and generally strive to abide by myself. But they have never been deployed as the explicit rule set here - ie. set out as rules in the sidebar.
I didn't feel right to lay out rules, being the only regularly active mod for over a year, so I left the rules undefined, despite some users demanding it. The majority of users have been happy to not have a set of rules explicitly laid out by the mods though. The admin have laid out their rules, and I added the link to them in the sidebar.
I'm often not happy with what I see here either. But is it the purpose of this forum and what it's users post here to keep me happy? For example, the flat earth shit here really bothers me, so I polled the community if they wanted me to get rid of it - but they demanded zero censorship, as absolute free speech as legality permits. I've have tried to abide by that.
You are incorrect. We have always had the golden rule here along with site wide TOS. This was decided before you were even made a mod. I had this discussion with Axo on what rules we were going to enforce. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure we even had that on the sidebar at one point. This was never meant to be a place with zero rules, just very lax one. If you truly feel like you (or users) need the right to attack and abuse other users, then, I'm not sure if you should even be a mod here. Who the fuck wants it's user base constantly being attacked and abused? Like, what the fuck?
Ya i remember when you lost that Flat earth ban vote. so you just took it upon yourself to run a vote because someone was posting FE too much? i think there are only a few of you die hard cog dis globies here. most of the FE people i met here took off because of the FE narrative you and few regulars perpetuate.
Flat earth shit only bothers you because you are too stubborn to take it seriously. I have seen you get schooled by flat earthers and you dont even reply. If you actually applied yourself, and truly looked into it, it would warp you so hard you would be crying in the corner.
You are incorrect about the established golden rule. See here: https://conspiracies.win/p/16bPePrnia/x/c/4Tv8bOLLsxh in my reply to Clems. As far as the end of what you said, I'm waiting on hearing back from Axo.
There is nothing "boomer" about having one rule, the golden rule: Attack the argument, not the user. We (me and Axo) have always abided by that. That was the only thing we carried over from /r/conspiracy, lol.
Yea, I don't know. I've been away for personal reasons. I thought I left this place in good hands and that the stigma of my username (much of which, are false accusations and smears) would be for the best. Not sure WTF happened. I'm here now, though. I've reached out to Axo, so I'm awaiting his response on a few things.
I never joined the ranks to baby sit. Y'all are adults and can speak freely, and I've been hands off for the most part. But, we do have some rules here, and the whole point is building a community for the betterment of us all.