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MAGA = Cult w/ no salvation but death (clott shots) (media.conspiracies.win)
posted 2 years ago by roadkill77 2 years ago by roadkill77 +10 / -2
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– Justfrankly -5 points 2 years ago +2 / -7

Lol, that commenter is funny. Jesus was never a real person. If he was, he would have been totally black, like all other hebrews of the time. If this triggers you, figure out why

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– roadkill77 [S] 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

found the black hebrew israelite

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– Justfrankly 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Its'a me'a, Mario!

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– TurnToGodNow 2 points 2 years ago +4 / -2

No reason to think Jesus wasn't historical. Except perhaps, wanting to deny the gospels and the truths therein.

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– Justfrankly 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Sorry. I think we have collecticely created jesus, so he is real. I have no desire to live a degenate lifestyle, i dont question the historicity of jesus so i can ignore common sense and basic morality.

But as a real historical person, the historical records from others at the time dont mention him.

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– TurnToGodNow 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Sorry. I think we have collecticely created jesus, so he is real

You can make up what you like, but many serious (non-Christian) historians disagree.

I have no desire to live a degenate lifestyle

Not* every sin manifests in the same way. An unregenerate man can look at the homosexual and say "see I'm not a homosexual, I'm already perfect", look at the rapists and say "see I'm not a rapist, I'm already perfect" but this is conceit.

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– Justfrankly 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

So a lot of historian agree and a lot of historians dont agree. Cant we look at the source that is evidence that jesus was mentioned during his life?

An unregenerate man is conceit? Dont get that last part....

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– Justfrankly 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Your enemy is what has become "jews" The white satan worshipers from the lands that are now modern day ukraine that hi-jacked the israelite history as their own.

They were utterly destroyed by the turks ages ago. Makes me happy. fuck their race

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– Justfrankly 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Ya, but way back was a slaughtering. Sure they have control today and do far more worse than slaughter.

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Thanks man, i love me a good religious christian. They are good people, mostly. But ya, in practice, they believe. They arent sticklers for historical sources. Whatever though, its good for them them, be happy.

Judah is just a tiny branch that got way too much attention.

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– TurnToGodNow -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

No, it turns out there are just some terribly written books on the topic that have been proven as lies. See Chris White or Keith Thompson's documentaries on the topic. Even secular historians laugh at the claims.

These New Age authors even try to claim ancient gods were "crucified" hundreds of years before Romans invented it. So it is nonsense once examined by scholars.

There is no contemporary scholarship claiming Jesus didn't exist at all. Instead there is scholarship confirming his life, both Roman and Jewish sources who hated him when writing about early Christians they don't claim he was made up. Romans said he was crucified.

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– TurnToGodNow 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Reporting on Emperor Nero’s decision to blame the Christians for the fire that had destroyed Rome in A.D. 64, the Roman historian Tacitus wrote:

Nero fastened the guilt . . . on a class hated for their abominations, called Christians by the populace. Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of . . . Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judaea, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome. . . .{5}

Now ask yourself, why are so many people blatantly lying about Jesus' existence on Earth? Strange isn't it?

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– Justfrankly 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Bangarang! Slapped silly and speachless.

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– TurnToGodNow -1 points 2 years ago +1 / -2

They are the earliest non Christian sources writing about the early Christians. Tacitus for instance.

Here is more from a historians answer comparing Alexander the Great and Jesus

The earliest extant biography of Alexander the Great was written 300 years after his death. The earliest extant biography of Jesus was written 40 years after his death, followed by three more independent biographies within 50–60 years of his death.

If you read anything on the life of Alexander, you will find that the historians who specialize in the subject have no problem mining the extant biographies for intimate details about his life, such as his favorite food or his feelings about his mother.

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The birthplace of Julius Caesar, for example, appears in a single primary source written 175 years after his death, and that is accepted without controversy.

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– Justfrankly 0 points 2 years ago +1 / -1

Appearently, this: https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/17187

But i dont see why i should trust historical analysis. I know man is corruptable, like science and historical records

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– TurnToGodNow 1 point 2 years ago +1 / -0

Saying "apparently this" and posting an entire website isn't an argument.

But let me give you another argument. 1st century Roman scholars were able to understand that Christians weren't going to their deaths over some person they recently just made up. Jews who hated Christ didn't argue that either. Yet fallen man 2000 years later insists this is the case because they wish it so.

And as mentioned earlier, modern fallen man have to create fictitious re-writings of ancient mythology to claim Jesus was a copy of them (see Zeitgeist and their sources). Why do they need to lie? Because the truth isn't on their side.

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