This place literally doesn't matter because its existence is entirely unknown to 99.9999% of the population, not a single debate or argument had here matters at all, tptb know that controlling the narrative for the significant npc majority is the most important battle of all, and the battlefield is not here, not even remotely, for someone retired with tons of free time this place is worth visiting just to see if anything interesting gets posted, along with numerous other discussion sites, but absolutely nobody is paying money for anyone to shill here, and that's the comical irony of it, the people who seem like shills are actually random nobody civilians who could be doing 1000 other things with their limited time on earth but instead are like "I think I'll go troll the 12 people on this obscure dead forum instead" and the underlying psychology behind it is exactly the same as ours when we spend time posting at each other here as opposed to doing literally anything else