yeah they just laid off half my national department at work . I went from the least experienced to 3rd in command for the same pay. nobody wins

And yet nobody can hire employees, eh? Glad I went into systems administration instead of development. It was up in the air over 20 years ago, before/while everything was getting exported. I decided to go into IT, since it seemed harder to outsource back then. Glad I did. Our company doesn't trust Outsource IT company's, so I'm hoping I can hang on for a while longer.