I had a normie shower me with MSM links, telling me how covid vaccines are certainly NOT gene therapy. I then did a 5 minute google search into the literature on mRNA and gene therapy. The first paper I found shows mRNA is being thought of as gene therapy
"mRNA as gene therapeutic: How to control protein expression" https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0168365910008308
And here is another paper in the pre-covid literature even mentioning vaccines as mRNA gene therapy
"Modified mRNA as an alternative to plasmid DNA (pDNA) for transcript replacement and vaccination therapy" https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1517/14712598.2015.1057563
Current gene therapy involves replacement of defective gene by delivery of healthy genetic material to precede normal function...The use of mRNA-based gene transfer could indeed be a promising new strategy for gene therapy. Notable advantages include no risk of integration into the genomic DNA [therefore one doesn't have to edit the genome for it to be gene therapy]
and let's read on
[one method of transfection] is generation of mRNA endocytosis by cationic carriers [lipid nanoparticles as used in cv-19 vaxxines]. These methods can also be used for in vivo as well as in vitro applications...As the mRNA does not have to enter the nucleus, soft electrical pulses may be applied to reduce cellular toxicity.
And here is the FDA definition from 2018 (pre-covid) https://archive.is/om8Mn
Human gene therapy seeks to modify or manipulate the expression of a gene or to alter the biological properties of living cells for therapeutic use [https://www.fda.gov/media/113768/download]
The "replication deficient" Adenovirus based shots (J&J, AZ and Sputnik) were talked about for much longer in the literature than mRNA in regards to gene therapy.
This is from a public paper in Science on gene therapy. https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.aan4672
The development of gene delivery vectors such as replication-defective retro viruses and adeno-associated virus (AAV)...led to the initiation of clinical trials in the early 1990s.
And of course Bayer CEO's famous admission. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/corruption/bayer-head-admits-covid-19-vaccine-is-gene-therapy/
Ultimately the mRNA vaccines are an example for that cell or gene therapy. I always like to say, if we had surveyed two years ago in the public, 'Would you be willing to take gene or cell therapy and inject it into your body?' we would've probably had a 95 percent refusal rate. I think this pandemic has also opened many people's eyes to innovation in the way that was maybe not possible before.
In conclusion the media gaslit you and tried to memory hole the definition of the term "gene therapy" used in the literature pre-2020.
Also worth noting, those papers all mention the terrible safety record with adenovirus vector gene therapy.
There is a process known as "reverse transcription" in which RNA is converted to DNA. If so your affect cells would produce spike protein permanently, and even multiply. I've never found rock solid proof that reverse transcription was occurring, but no one mainstream wants to address that question. The silence is defining
There was a Swedish paper showing mRNA was incorporated into the genome of liver cells last (or maybe this) year. But the papers I cited are before most were aware of that possibility.
The point I was making originally to this vaxtard is that they called this gene therapy whether it edited genes or not.
Ya I get that, it was a great article, good point. I'll be sending it to the usual libtards I like to antagonize. I was just going on about reverse transcription because I want to know if the jabbed are officially GMOs. I assume this could only be said if the changes were permanent? I have a libtard friend I've been calling a GMO or a mutant.
He could well be.
This is Moderna’s Form 10-Q from 2nd quarter 2020. “Currently, mRNA is considered a gene therapy product by the FDA.”
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1682852/000168285220000017/mrna-20200630.htm
That's a much better find, straight from the horses mouth. And yet take a look at these MSM gas lighting articles that normie sent me. How do they think they can get away with this.
https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/vaccines/are-mrna-vaccines-gene-therapy
https://www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk/blog/why-mrna-vaccines-arent-gene-therapies/
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene/fact-check-mrna-vaccines-are-distinct-from-gene-therapy-which-alters-recipients-genes-idUSL1N2PH16N
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2022/01/04/pfizer-biontech-and-moderna-mrna-vaccines-are-not-gene-therapies/
https://publichealthcollaborative.org/misinformation-alert/misleading-video-used-to-falsely-claim-covid-19-vaccines-are-gene-therapy/
Not a single mention of regulatory reclassification which looks like happened in early 2021 - That same passage is found also found in Moderna’s 2020 annual report and I should have quoted the whole thing.
https://d18rn0p25nwr6d.cloudfront.net/CIK-0001682852/e5c3ab36-8ef0-4943-9d47-5eb4baeef930.pdf
I also found this from Nov 2020.
https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/11/euro-convergence-regulatory-and-cmc-considerations
The Reuters fact check is dated August 2021 so less than a year prior mRNA was classified as gene therapy in the US and Europe. Normies can’t have it both ways - regulatory agencies are beyond reproach or they aren’t.
Thanks for posting these links and jarring my memory. This is a great example of the manipulation taking place, along with the WHO changing the definition of vaccine and Marriam-Webster changing definition of anti-vaxxer. Reminds me of that Orwell quote an endless present where the party is always right.
For the record here are all the shit tier normie articles denying reality. I marvel at the gas lighting.
https://www.goodrx.com/health-topic/vaccines/are-mrna-vaccines-gene-therapy
https://www.genomicseducation.hee.nhs.uk/blog/why-mrna-vaccines-arent-gene-therapies/
https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-covid-mrna-gene/fact-check-mrna-vaccines-are-distinct-from-gene-therapy-which-alters-recipients-genes-idUSL1N2PH16N
https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2022/01/04/pfizer-biontech-and-moderna-mrna-vaccines-are-not-gene-therapies/
https://publichealthcollaborative.org/misinformation-alert/misleading-video-used-to-falsely-claim-covid-19-vaccines-are-gene-therapy/
Can I upvote multiple times this post? TY OP
Thanks, it is good to get positive feedback on this website once in a while.
I studied biochemistry once upon a time so I'm able to get a little more in depth on this stuff (though I don't claim to be "an expert" in it).
Only if they are* genetically engineered by man.
It sounds like you are trying to minimize the seriousness of man-made DNA manipulation.
Man made injections of modified viral vectors and mRNA pose very unique risks. Normally adenovirus vectors enter through the respiratory tract, injection bypasses all that. These therapies are also specially designed to bypass cell defenses once inside the body. So this isn't the same as normal exposure to virus particles.
And that is not even mentioning the toxicity of the genetic payload the virus was artificially engineered to have.
In that case you're just giving someone immunity to the virus they were infected with. So that is natural immunity, not gene therapy. What you are proposing is a perversion of language, because a "therapy" can't be the disease causing agent itself.
Kek