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It took 160 episodes, but I finally got to the information I was looking for. The story that Genesis is based off of. The not watered down version. (media.scored.co)
posted 3 years ago by sackofwisdom 3 years ago by sackofwisdom +12 / -3
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– SmokeAndMirrors 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

Satan is one of Yahweh's angels and if you think Lucifer and Satan are the same then you have not read the bible.

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– SmokeAndMirrors -3 points 3 years ago +1 / -4

Have you even read the Bible?

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– SmokeAndMirrors -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

Then how the fuck can you not know who Satan and "Lucifer" are?

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– GodsWordIsTrue 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

What Biblical evidence is there that Lucifer and Satan are two different beings?

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– SmokeAndMirrors -1 points 3 years ago +1 / -2

The section that contains the name Lucifer is a prophecy addressed to a Babylonian king. It has absolutely nothing to do with Satan.

Did you even ever read it?

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– GodsWordIsTrue 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I believe that what is written in the "proverb against the king of Babylon" in Isaiah 14 is a prophetic reference to Satan.

Other prophetic writings sometimes refer to angels or demons as princes of geographic regions (see the reference to the prince of Persia in Daniel 10:13).

Isaiah 14 describes this king of Babylon / Lucifer ("light-bearer") falling from heaven after rebelling against God.

Paul says that Satan is transformed into an angel of light, i.e., he appears as a light-bearer or a "lucifer"(2 Corinthians 11:14). Jesus says that He saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning (Like 10:18), just as the proverbial king of Babylon / Lucifer falls from heaven in Isaiah 14.

In a similar vein, I believe that the lamentation upon the king of Tyrus in Ezekiel 28:12-19 also describes Satan because of the language used there ("...thou hast been in Eden the garden of God ...thou art the anointed cherub that covereth...").

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– SmokeAndMirrors -3 points 3 years ago +1 / -4

I believe

Who cares about your personal interpretation?

Here is what the passage says;

Those who see you stare at you, they ponder your fate: “Is this the man who shook the earth and made kingdoms tremble, 17 the man who made the world a wilderness, who overthrew its cities and would not let his captives go home?”

Satan is no man. He is an angel of Yahweh.

You simply pick and choose the parts that you agree with and ignore the rest.

It literally says that it's a taunt against the king of Babylon:

"On the day the Lord gives you relief from your suffering and turmoil and from the harsh labor forced on you, 4 you will take up this taunt against the king of Babylon:"

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