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posted 3 years ago by throwaway_27_ 3 years ago by throwaway_27_ +44 / -17
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– Allas8 8 points 3 years ago +14 / -6

Here is how you can prove that the heliocentric model is false by observing the sun. The sun always moves in a clockwise direction, no matter what time of the year, no matter where on earth you are, as you see the sun move from one side of the horizon to the other, it will make a right turn, from your perspective. In the heliocentric model, when the south pole is tilting towards the sun, the sun should move in a counter clockwise direction, as it moves across the sky, from your perspective.

Same with star trails. The north star always stays stationary, all the other stars rotates around the north star. The farther south you get, the bigger of a circle the star trails will make, as they move around the point of the north star. Even when you get passed the equator, the star trails keep getting bigger and bigger, the further south you get, proving that there is no south pole. If the heliocentric model was correct, it be easy to prove that the star trails was getting smaller and smaler when viewed from say Australia, in a south ward direction, as they do in the north.

While the moon, based on every single observation I have every made, is a disc, not a ball, as I have only seen one side of the moon.

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– junky_junk_junk 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

One of the few sources of pride in life is knowing that you broke free from the matrix mental prison they've crafted for you.

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– RentFreeCrisisAct 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

Doesn't it.bother you guys that you will NEVER get a resolution for this simple question? There is no way to PROVE it besides this YouTube video and that guys argument. Don't you think it's a little odd that this is the case? Literally EVERYONE in the know keeps their mouth shut on this one. Just seems ...unsettling somehow.

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– Celest 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

What do you mean "there is no way to prove it"?

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– RentFreeCrisisAct 1 point 3 years ago +3 / -2

Pretty cut and dry statement..Nobody trusts NADA (typo but I like it) and nobody trusts FEers. That means we are back at square one...right?

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... continue reading thread?
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– YuuugeAsshoe 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

I've had the same thought about the night sky circling around the north star (polaris), and I've seen plenty of time lapse videos of this. Can anyone find a time lapse video of the night sky circling around the point above our southern pole? Polaris Australis is allegedly the star closest to the point above our southern pole, as the controllers tell us. This should settle it unless the video is somehow faked.

I haven't been to the southern hemisphere for over 10 years, I wish I had investigated this for myself. If you live in Australia or NZ (further south it would be more apparent) you can just set up a camera on a clear night, point it directly south, and take a time lapse of the sky. You should see the stars circling around the point above the southern pole, if we in fact live on a globe. If we live on the FE Allas8 described, the stars should still be circling around the north pole.

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– Celest 4 points 3 years ago +5 / -1

Yeah, stars in the southern hemisphere do seem to revolve around Polaris Australis/Sigma Octantis. There are videos of it, but you could also use https://stellarium-web.org to view [a simulation of] the sky.

There's a video Eric Dubay made about this topic: How the Southern Stars Work on Flat Earth (odysee link). I think it's a pretty good explanation for what's occurring.

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– illuphantasm 5 points 3 years ago +5 / -0

NASA's heliocentric model is clearly wrong. I enjoy the science behind Flat Earth because it creates an accurate understanding of the magnetic power behind the world. For me personally, the stars has always been the dividing line between Flat Earth and the geocentric model. This video makes a lot of sense. Thanks.

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– DangerCat 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

Your first paragraph makes no sense. I really don't understand what you mean. I live in a northerly country, so the sun should always rotate 'clockwise' according to the heliocentric model -- which is does.

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– CalradianEmperor 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

But if the sun rises in the east and sets in the west (which it does), doesn't it mean it moves counterclockwise?

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– Allas8 5 points 3 years ago +6 / -1

No. Track the position of the sun every hour you see it in the sky for a day, draw a line between the positions you have marked, and you will see that it moves in a clockwise circle, always.

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– CalradianEmperor 0 points 3 years ago +2 / -2

Don't you think it's relative though? If you're facing North, then it's moving counterclockwise, but if you're facing South, you're moving clockwise. So this argument has no validity.

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– Allas8 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

I do not think it is relative, no. The sun moves in a constant clockwise direction, whether you face North or South when looking at the sun. Only difference is if you are inside our outside the the circle the sun makes across our sky.

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– Allas8 2 points 3 years ago +4 / -2

A merry go around is flat though. Based on which way you spin, the sun will either spin in a clockwise direction, or a counter clock wise direction, no matter the position of the sun. not matter where on the Merry go around you are, perfectly demonstarting the principal I lay out.

Start spinning a ball on the other hand, and the sun will either move in a clock wise direction, or a counter clock wise direction, based on if you are on top of the ball, or under the ball.

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