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CB radio call of 9,863 miles from the US to Australia (youtu.be)
posted 3 years ago by Allas8 3 years ago by Allas8 +15 / -5
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– ClamChowder 5 points 3 years ago +6 / -1

Someone has no idea how radio waves work

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– Clobro 3 points 3 years ago +4 / -1

LMAO.

SAD.

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– SevenThunders 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Ever heard of something called the ionosphere? Radio waves bounce off that.

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– DZP1 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

It's pretty well known there are various skip layers in the ionosphere. With solar flares, we sometimes get the layers energized, and they become like mirrors for radio-frequency waves. It's covered in a lot of sources, the ARRL handbook is a trusted one. This case probably used the F2 skip layer energized by a flare at the time. If you have a question, AMA, I'll be glad to help.

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E/M waves are interesting. When an electron emits a photon, it produces an expanding spherical wavefront. It's like a ripple in a very thin shell. At a far enough distance away, the surface of the sphere looks pretty flat because its curvature is now spread out. Note that every star emits light in all directions; it puts out spherical wavefronts that travel for millions of years or even longer. By the time they get to you, they seem flat and head-on.

However, when electronic circuits emit E/M waves, for example at microwave frequencies, the wave is pretty directional and we use waveguides - electrical plumbing - to aim the flow. The wave travels in them like water. Other kinds of antennas are a whole other complicated area but basically CB ionospheric skip operates as if you are aiming a 27 MHz searchlight at a high altitude mirror. It can bend around the earth for great distances, but the deciding factor is how strong is what finally gets to a target; lots gets absorbed along the way. Solar flares create very good mirrors from the thin gases in the higher atmosphere. If we could see in the RF spectrum, when a solar flare hits the earth it would look as if the earth was surrounded by a mirror. Light however is at higher frequencies that have high energy, and goes right through it.

The comment "don't think that's well documented or understood." It has been extremely well documented and very well understood for 90 years, and all the militaries use it and all ham radio operators understand it and use it. They even get awards regularly for DX communication using it. FCC license exams even ask questions about it to make sure applicants understand it.

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– DZP1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

So if the earth is flat then with a telescope you could see Europe, right, and also China. I'll give you $100 if you can do that from where you live in the US, and show me the Eiffel Tower from anywhere in Chicago. We have lots of really powerful telescopes so this should be easy. Look, a nice crisp new Benjamin for a certified photo.

Also, if the earth is flat, what's on the bottom side. lol. So no one has ever explored the other side? Kind of hard to imagine that. If earth is flat, why has no one reached or fallen off any edge?

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– DZP1 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I finally figured out I am talking to a bot. Silly me.

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– ClamChowder 4 points 3 years ago +5 / -1

You can literally attach a camera to a weather balloon and see very clearly the shape of the earth. Grade 8 science fair projects have been doing it for 20 years.

Unless of course all those children are in on the conspiracy.

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– ClamChowder 1 point 3 years ago +2 / -1

You're fucking retarded

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– PaidSockPuppet 2 points 3 years ago +3 / -1

LOL. You can't be serious.

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– PaidSockPuppet 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I love the engagement, but rather than me prove the earth is round, how about you share the really easy disproof and I can review that?

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– PaidSockPuppet 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You can see the shoreline of islands that are 30 miles out to sea

I can see across a waterway that is probably 50 miles, but I am certain that I can't see the shoreline; only the tops of mountains on the other side. When looking the other way (from the other side) I can't see shit, because the land that side is only 6m above sea level. I do this experiment often because I have a house either side.

I did see someone try to show how even that should be impossible. The thing is, on face value, the trigonometry looks plausible, but it isn't. I explained what was wrong with it, but never got a response. There's closed minds on all sides of every argument let me assure you!

I'll take some time to check our your links next week (I have a full on weekend this weekend with work).

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