I continually see memes quoting statistics that claim to show the ineffectiveness of vaccines.
Anybody with even middle school level math competency should be able to see through the misrepresentation of these statistics.
A recent example stated that 85.7% of deaths over a particular week in Scotland were vaccinated people. The conclusion drawn was that the vaccines don't work because the vast majority of people dying were vaccinated.
What was left out in the post was that 94% of Scotland has received at least 1 dose and 74% has received 3 doses. That leaves only less than 6% of the population unvaxxed accounting for 12% of the deaths. This data suggests (suggests, doesn't prove anything), just the opposite of the conclusion drawn.
Misuse of statistics makes people look either stupid or dishonest. If you see something posted like this, you should immediately question your source. Anybody passing off this kind of stuff isn't vetting their sources or their numbers either through actual intent to mislead or sheer stupidity. Either way, the source cannot be trusted. Trusting such a source is just allowing yourself to be duped (which makes you a dupe) or a liar yourself.
Hold yourself to higher standards of integrity, please, everybody. It doesn't help anybody to lie about facts or pass on lies about facts.
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You are wrong. The numbers you provided are from 14 Dec 2020 to 17 Apr 2022. Move the goalpost all you want.
I can go by either totals back to dec 2020 or take the last month. Either way, it supports the inference that vaccines ARE effective. I did both. That's not cherry-picking. I took the last month in response to the argument that it took time for people to be vaccinated, etc. Also, the last week is included in the last month so even taking that last week into account, unvaccinated people were 3x times more likely to die.
I'm not wrong, the report does indeed say exactly what I say it says.
I didn't say it wasn't from 14 Dec 2020 to 17 Apr 2022. What I said is that report says unvaccinated people were more likely to die from COVID than vaccinated people.
You tried to use the totals to prove something that it couldn’t… I called you out for not accounting for the vaccine rollout… you moved the goalpost.
You were wrong to try to use the totals to prove your point. You did not account for the vaccination rates over time.
“I can go by either totals back to dec 2020…”
NO YOU CAN’T. Not with the available data. I’m not saying you couldn’t potentially find additional sources of data to make your point… I’m saying, using the available data in this source, you CAN’T because it doesn’t account for vaccination rate over time.
“…or take the last month.”
You CAN do that… and the guy you responded to CAN use the last week of data.
You have to admit, the last reported week’s data is interesting. I for one want to see if a trend develops.
Everything you say is wrong.
I think it's probably just a reporting anomaly.
Please tell me what part is wrong so I can learn.
As you said in another comment, “You don't understand the math. Take for example, if 100% of the population were vaccinated, a very small number would still die. In that case ,100% of the deaths would be vaccinated people.”