Agree with the inference you make. Came here to say this though: nationalism is not the same thing as isolationism. You can be pro trade but also nationalist. America first foreign policy is a recent example.
Maybe all this IS in the interest of our govt though. They got the poor people fighting amongst themselves and have taught the kids to feel like victims.
Hm could be. So by changing a bunch of banking systems and normalizing the seizing of private property, they'll maybe claim to have kowtowed Russia into withdrawing. Meanwhile I suspect Russia will get Donbas and a few small bones thrown their way. Donbas has been fighting Ukraine for 8 years so it's not like it was helping Ukraine anyway. Russia has already hardened his country with is own banking changes and probably a lot of sanctions will be either paper tigers and empty talk or quietly removed in the near future. Putin can use this to tighten control in Russia and maybe get rid of a few oligarchs he doesn't like. Both Ukraine and Russia may have already been sick of the out of control eastern Ukraine militias that would not take orders even from the Ukraine govt, that solves a prob for Ukraine too. In exchange, Ukraine has to take some bombed buildings but donations will pay for that later and a lot of the donations can be stolen and laundered which already is a Ukrainian govt specialty. And of course the regular people of the world will be distracted by all this. So despite propaganda to the contrary, it could be a win win for both sides' govts.
Agree with the inference you make. Came here to say this though: nationalism is not the same thing as isolationism. You can be pro trade but also nationalist. America first foreign policy is a recent example.
Maybe all this IS in the interest of our govt though. They got the poor people fighting amongst themselves and have taught the kids to feel like victims.
Hm could be. So by changing a bunch of banking systems and normalizing the seizing of private property, they'll maybe claim to have kowtowed Russia into withdrawing. Meanwhile I suspect Russia will get Donbas and a few small bones thrown their way. Donbas has been fighting Ukraine for 8 years so it's not like it was helping Ukraine anyway. Russia has already hardened his country with is own banking changes and probably a lot of sanctions will be either paper tigers and empty talk or quietly removed in the near future. Putin can use this to tighten control in Russia and maybe get rid of a few oligarchs he doesn't like. Both Ukraine and Russia may have already been sick of the out of control eastern Ukraine militias that would not take orders even from the Ukraine govt, that solves a prob for Ukraine too. In exchange, Ukraine has to take some bombed buildings but donations will pay for that later and a lot of the donations can be stolen and laundered which already is a Ukrainian govt specialty. And of course the regular people of the world will be distracted by all this. So despite propaganda to the contrary, it could be a win win for both sides' govts.