Sometimes they did it for the rush, for the sex, for defense of their people, to eat, for freedom, for tyranny, for pride, for ambition, and so on, and so on.
Do you have any interest in exploring this view further? It's well worth the time to do so! I created a community specifically for such discussion if you are at all interested!
Oh, we are most certainly on earth. I might be crazy, but I'm not that crazy!
I really am a heartfelt fan of sagan, and fellow lover of science. I detest simulationism the same way he would have if he had lived to see it.
Where do you hypothesize we are?
I am a bit of a stickler meseeks. I do not use the technical vernacular of science incorrectly, and I encourage others to do the same. Sadly, the colloquial definitions of those words that the vast majority of us learn are wrong. I don't have any hypothesis. I have a conclusion bore of exhaustive research and scientific (and the history thereof) study.
This is one reason I started the discussion in regards to evidence, not speculation (the colloquial and incorrect definition of hypothesis).
I have evidence to support that we are not on a "dot" in the cold vastness of "space". That the nature of the world and universe we are taught under the guise of science (from childhood) is in fact pseudoscience/religion and directly contradicts with science and scientific law.
As sagan would agree, if it isn't consistent with natural law or experiment - then it isn't science - it's wrong.
The posit that we are a small dot in an "infinite sky vacuum" is some of the most mind numbingly stupid mythology humanity has ever concocted. And that is a truly impressive achievement, considering the competition. It is also wholly incompatible with science.
The mythology, "taught" from childhood through rote under the guise of education and science, does not have no purpose or impact on society however...
What do you think? Any interest in learning more, or disagreeing? AMA!
I reckon (and hope) we are human beings! But I am not sure I fully understand your question/meaning.
As for atlantis, in my view that is a very common myth and a re-telling of the noah myth (or vice versa). Atlantis was not a continent or an island, it was the entirety of the world. The circular system used to organize and structure that world is the origin of "leylines"/"dragon lines" and ultimately our modern long/lat. Just so we are clear, these are perspectives on mythology and history - and NOT science. It's tangential to the topic we are discussing at absolute best. Still interesting though!
What we do echoes through eternity.
Sometimes they did it for the rush, for the sex, for defense of their people, to eat, for freedom, for tyranny, for pride, for ambition, and so on, and so on.
Nihilism? It doesn't matter.
Every Human Being that ever was...
Every Hero.
Creator, Inventor.
Explorer.
Every Teacher of Morals. Every Saint... And Sinner...
Every Human Being who ever was!
From this distant vantage point, the Earth might not seem like any particular interest... But for US, It's different.
Consider again, that dot...
That’s here. That’s home. That’s us!
That's us.
That's Home.
That's here. That's US.
Every Human Being who ever was, lives here...
On a mote of dust, suspended, in a Sunbeam...
In a vast, Cosmic, Arena...
Think of the rivers of blood, spilled by all those Generals and Emperors...
So that in glory and triumph, they could become the momentary masters, of a fraction, of a dot...
Do you have any interest in exploring this view further? It's well worth the time to do so! I created a community specifically for such discussion if you are at all interested!
I am a big sagan fan as well!
Let's go brotha, I'm open for discussions
Rock and roll!
First, let me say that sagan is right about what he is saying here - and nothing I am going to say below will alter that.
What would you say/think if I told you I had evidence that we are not, in fact, on that dot right there?
I'm listening, Where do you hypothesize we are?
Oh, we are most certainly on earth. I might be crazy, but I'm not that crazy!
I really am a heartfelt fan of sagan, and fellow lover of science. I detest simulationism the same way he would have if he had lived to see it.
I am a bit of a stickler meseeks. I do not use the technical vernacular of science incorrectly, and I encourage others to do the same. Sadly, the colloquial definitions of those words that the vast majority of us learn are wrong. I don't have any hypothesis. I have a conclusion bore of exhaustive research and scientific (and the history thereof) study.
This is one reason I started the discussion in regards to evidence, not speculation (the colloquial and incorrect definition of hypothesis).
I have evidence to support that we are not on a "dot" in the cold vastness of "space". That the nature of the world and universe we are taught under the guise of science (from childhood) is in fact pseudoscience/religion and directly contradicts with science and scientific law.
As sagan would agree, if it isn't consistent with natural law or experiment - then it isn't science - it's wrong.
The posit that we are a small dot in an "infinite sky vacuum" is some of the most mind numbingly stupid mythology humanity has ever concocted. And that is a truly impressive achievement, considering the competition. It is also wholly incompatible with science.
The mythology, "taught" from childhood through rote under the guise of education and science, does not have no purpose or impact on society however...
What do you think? Any interest in learning more, or disagreeing? AMA!
I'm following you for the most part, it's similar to how we don't really hear about "Atlantis" and various other "myths" of history.
It's written by the victor so it makes sense.
So what do you reckon we are?
I reckon (and hope) we are human beings! But I am not sure I fully understand your question/meaning.
As for atlantis, in my view that is a very common myth and a re-telling of the noah myth (or vice versa). Atlantis was not a continent or an island, it was the entirety of the world. The circular system used to organize and structure that world is the origin of "leylines"/"dragon lines" and ultimately our modern long/lat. Just so we are clear, these are perspectives on mythology and history - and NOT science. It's tangential to the topic we are discussing at absolute best. Still interesting though!