Oh I forgot to address the Muslim thing. Individually they are not a problem. Ok. I agree.

However they are the fastest growing religion and do have children at higher rates. And so?

They have a horrible history of being violent and enslaving people .

So do Christians. 200 years of slavery here in the United States, by and large, condoned and even justified by Christians.

Centuries of it and still enslave people today.

Islam has banned slavery, but, yes, it is still practiced even when officially abolished. I'm not a fan of Islam. I am merely saying that liberals haven't "embraced" Islam. In the US, we practice freedom of religion. That includes all religions, including Islam. Those religions though still have to follow our laws. So what we need to maintain and fight for is democracy. And I would be willing to bet that the vast, vast majority of Muslims in the US want democracy and don't support slavery.

They currently murder thousands of Christians yearly in their countries.

Again, you say "they." It certainly isn't Muslims in the US killing Christians. And remember, Muslims are also persecuted in some parts of the world. Let me be clear: I oppose Muslims persecuting Christians, Buddhists persecuting Muslims, Christians persecuting Buddhists or whatever. I also 100% oppose any religious state. Religion and government should be entirely separate. You cannot have a democracy if there is a state religion or a religion based on a state. In those cases where Christians are persecuted, generally speaking, there is an Islamic state. Any authoritarian state scapegoats and murders minority populations. Germans killed Jews, Guatemala killed indigenous people, Vietnamese Christians killed Buddhists, Chinese communists kill Muslims, et etc etc. This is an aspect of authoritarianism. Take state power away from religions and they can't do that. (I know some of those I listed weren't theocracies, per se.)

Liberals embrace any religion that is not Christian because they are ignorant.

Most liberals are Christians. 44% of mainline protestants are Democrats. 44% of Catholics are Democrats. 44% of Orthodox Christians are Democrats. 80% of Black Christians are Democrats. You need to use facts, not just whatever you think is true.

Under Islamic law gays are murdered or even changed to women. Women are horribly oppressed.

Under Islamic law as practiced by Islamic fundamentalists. But I agree there are some horrific Islamic states out there. I wouldn't say liberals "embrace" those states. In fact, it's conservatives who embrace states like Saudi Arabia, not liberals. It was Jared Kushner who cut a deal with Qatar to save his ass on the 666 Park Ave property. It's Trump and family who are literally friends with MBS who had a journalist, an American resident, hacked to pieces. I don't see liberals "embracing" Islam at all, other than to say we practice religious freedom in the United States and people should be persecuted based on their religion.

I would say part of how we got to this insane society is kids rebelling against too strict of Christian parents. Like no tolerance. I remember those parents in the 80’s and 90’s. But at the moment the lack of tolerance is on the left and they are acting like the intolerant version of their parents but advocating different things.

I don't know what you mean. The first part: no, I don't think that was much of a problem and isn't what has led us to where we're at. What's led us to where we are it is the marriage of conservative Evangelical Christianity with the Republican Party.

I don't know what you mean about the intolerance on the left. Can you be more specific?

Which includes abusing, aborting or cutting up kids genitalia or physiological abuse or sex with minors.

Aborting a fetus isn't harming a living being, at least if we follow Roe v Wade guidelines. At that point, the fetus isn't a separate living being. I remember when I was a young Catholic arguing with Protestants about this from the other point of view. I remember them saying it was "just a bunch of cells." But when the GOP starting pushing abortion as a wedge issue, protestants switched their position on it. They did convince me first though.

Everything else I agree with, except the caveat of children who want to transition. I'm still not sure what to think about that.

I have read pretty everything Marx has written , I think you possibly have not. Marx believes in no private property at all. In order for his vision to take place even property must be taken from the poor. The government owns everything and is distributed to use not owned by the citizens. “The public” is the government. It’s word play and hard to understand unless you really delve into his works including questions answered by him and Engles.

Can you site in Marx where he says "the government owns everything?"

Can you explain Marx's theory of capital accumulation and what do you think about it?

think yes, there are some people that fall for the patriotic stuff but more so Trump meaning to or not activated a massive base of people that realized how corrupt both sides are.

Both sides are corrupt, I agree. So is Trump. Trump is an utter fraud. Look, his "university" got shut down and he had to pay out $25 million to students he defrauded. His "charity" got shut down for misusing funds. He has a history of cheating workers. Why would you think Trump isn't as corrupt as anyone else?

n the end if Trump is unable to save the country, I do not believe that will be the end. Trump very well may not be who we think or want but non the less he has awakened people very much to the corruption happening and now patriots want all their freedoms back.

But following Trump doesn't get the country back. What precise step has Trump taken to take power out of the hands of the corporate elite? He gave them a huge tax break, his advisors were full of Goldman Sachs types. Trump is like the Pied Piper and you are all conned by his false promises. He just says whatever he thinks will rile people up by "owning the libs." That's all he does. If people are woken up and herded off the cliff, that's not helping much.

In Texas the huge case where the mother won (not sure if final) to raise her kid like a boy. Despite the father not wanting to transition him and apparently the kid doesn’t want it ether when not at his moms house.

Have you looked into this? I did because it was extremely concerning. It could be that here we have a mother trying to force her son to be a girl. I don't know. Apparently, it's difficult to assess what the child wants. But this is one case that's being litigated and is also part of a complex custody battle. It's not typical. There aren't liberals going into that house making the boy a girl. The mother herself claims the boy wants to be a girl. The father denies that. I don't have special insight into who is right and who is wrong.I can see where the child could be manipulated by either parent while in that parent's custody. Obviously with the father, I'm sure there's massive approval when boy behaviors are selected.

Many parents all over the USA are suing for schools trying to talk their kids into transitioning.

Do you have any sources for this. I don't believe there is a single school in the USA trying to talk kids into transitioning. Not a single one. If there were, that staff would be immediately fired (rightfully so).

They are actively pushing trans crap everywhere and if you aren’t sure where they are getting it it is in cartoons and in schools.

Can you give me one example of schools pushing kids into transitioning?

I'm not sure about cartoons. Would you consider having trans characters in a cartoon "pushing kids into transitioning?" I am unaware of cartoons with trans characters and highly doubt that there are mainstream cartoons that encourage transitioning. I could imagine that there are cartoons that show it's ok to transition. I think that is important for kids who really do want to transition, they should be supported and not ostracized, don't you think?

This is a trend for kids who don’t understand the life long repercussions of hormones or blockers or cutting up your body. It’s not like goth makeup that washes off when you are over being goth. They are not just a different generation. Even in the tablets they are given in school it is in there.

Yeah, I'm concerned about kids making those choices so early in their lives. But then, when are they supposed to make that choice? I don't know. I don't have the answers. I know people who transitioned and are very happy with their choice to do so. So what's the big deal? It's their life, not mine. But, yeah, as far as kids making that decision, I'm not an expert but I think that there really have to be really careful steps to take or guidelines to follow or something to assess if the child really does in their heart identify as the opposite sex. I don't know what that process is. My own nephew/niece hasn't transitioned yet but apparently wants to. I said earlier that they weren't particularly feminine, but I do remember that in Minecraft, they (I should say "she" because she does want she/her pronouns, I guess) always chose a female avatar. I didn't think that much about it, but now thinking back on that, it might have meant something that I missed.

Even in the tablets they are given in school it is in there. Most teachers are probably too lazy or don’t care enough to look at what is in the tablets they learn on.

What do you that it is "even in the tablets they are given?" You mean it is part of the classes that do through their tablets? I don't understand. I can assure you that there is nothing that "pushes" students or encourages them to transition. If you can find something, a primary document, showing opposite then I will believe it. But I won't believe it just from someone saying it's there.

. A mother told me in a very red state in order to pass the online class given during Covid her kid had to learn trans crap. Many as young as pre-K get non binary bs taught to them. Kids soak in whatever you teach them. Nothing is happening but perverted abusive propaganda.

What is taught to them? Would it be wrong to teach kids about trans people? Trans people are people, still deserving of respect and love just like anyone else. In most states, pre-k isn't even public, so if it is in pre-k, that's something to do with that particular pre-school. In public school, I do not believe there is anything "pushing" students to transition. I could see students at some level, particularly high school, being taught about trans people. It's part of the world we live in, so it probably should be addressed.

Red flag laws are way overstepping. You can call on someone you don’t know and their property gets seized with out investigation. Then to get your guns back you have to go to court and then pay to get them back no matter what the verdict.

So you don't agree with red flag laws, but are they really trampling on the Constitution? Hasn't the Supreme Court ruled that, in both speech and right to arms, that the right isn't absolute.

I believe that the way the process works is that there is a hearing within 24 hours after a claim is submitted to the Court. A judge then makes a determination as to whether there is an actual threat. The onus is on the petitioners to present facts to support the claim that there is a danger to the individual or the public. Only then are the weapons turned over. So it's pretty clear there is a due process and it isn't as much of an overstep as you see to believe. If it saves lives, isn't it a good idea?

Also, not just anyone can file the petition. It has to be law enforcement, immediate family, or someone living in the household.

Here's an example: Oregon Red Flag Law

Here is a red state Red Flag law: Indiana Red Flag Law

In the case of Indiana, the petition comes from law enforcement only.

So what specifically do you think is wrong with these laws?

his doesn’t even touch on when they decide to ban guns and then unknowingly if you bought one before the ban you can become an instant felon even though you owned it prior.

This isn't true at all. When "assault weapons" were banned, owners were allowed to keep their pre-ban weapons. The were even called "pre-bans."

If the government wants your guns in blue states all they have to do is get someone to call in a red flag report.

Law enforcement could do that, yes, but we trust the Blue, right? Otherwise, the government would have to get an immediate family member or someone living in the house to do it. Also, there is judicial oversight.

If you don’t see the call for censorship and the actual censorship happening to any dissenting voices that question the Democratic Party and agendas I don’t know what to tell you.

Well, you could give me an example, which is what I asked for. If it's out there, then it shouldn't be very hard to demonstrate. It's not out there, that's why you resort to 'you don't know what to tell you' schtick. You just don't have anything to tell.

I'll look at that site. I'm not hopeful that there will be anything but propaganda there.

EDIT: First thing I looked at was this: Russian Ammo Ban

First, I 100% support taking action against Russia and Putin for poisoning Aleksey Navalny. Why wouldn't we all support the democratic opposition to authoritarian and totally corrupt Putin? This isn't stopping anybody from purchasing all manner of ammo.

I'm turned off already. As if being able to by ammo specifically from Russia (shouldn't we support American manufacturers anyway?) is more important that human rights. Putin hasn't only poisoned and imprisoned Navalny, he has killed people on our soil and in Britain using poison. He's murdered journalists in Russia.

Here's a list of people probably killed on Putin's orders.

I'm disturbed by conservatives turning to eastern European dictatorships or authoritarians as role models, like Tucker Carlson going to Hungary and extolling Orban. Hungary is only considered "partially free" by Freedom House. Why would we want to be like Hungary? Yet that's exactly what Tucker said. CPAC is going to hold a conference there. Why? Why are conservatives attracted to these authoritarians?

Link to Freedom House. Interestlingly, for some reason Hungary was upgraded from 69 to 70 in this year's rating. When I checked a few weeks ago it was a 69 (partially free). Very interesting that it somehow bumped up to 70. ( I put in an inquiry.)

So, yeah, I don't have time for this sort of sensationalism. Embargoing Russian ammos isn't "trampling on the Constititution."