*** I assume, not certain
Iv seen people ask this question all the time. So yes. Im fairly sure, to the best of my abilities, that I know of several people who may have died "from" not "with" covid.
They were all elderly. They were all unvaxinated (I asked) I live in a red state and rural area so we have a high elderly population and word gets around. So, I attribute that as to why Iv cought wind of so many deaths, from credible, conservitive people, who are just as skeptical as I am.
They all died from strange symptoms like organ failure and strokes. Not like the flu or pneumonia. It was much more severe. Much more debilitating.
At least 2 I am certain were not placed on ventalators. 3rd is assumed based on context.*
One notable was a lady who lost her ability to walk, and eventually had a stroke like attack (blood test doesnt show stroke happened) while having a hard time with COVID.
My father who is very diabetic and aunt who has lupus also cought it. Was around them both. So were most of my family. (Were very close, small knit, and alot of them live together) No one else cought it. Not even my 80+ grandmother who lives with my aunt. Shes very healthy for her age.
Still. It was certainly different from the flu. My aunt only got better after reciving a theraputics transfusion. My dad, being a stuborn man, stuck it out and it took months to recoup. This was in the early stages of COVID, before ivermectin. He would have definitely take that if Id known about it.
Anyway. Ask me anything. Call me a larp. Whatever you want! Lol. Just here to share my story the best that I can, and to challenge my conclusion.*
*** Edited. Marked with *
Beware of slipping into all this madness. Covid is a word. That word was coined 1.5 years ago. Covid is medically defined as "atypical pneumonia" i.e. pneumonia caused by an unknown agent or pathogen i.e. covid is still pneumonia. It's not the disease itself which is supposed to be new or different, but the cause. Which is alleged to be SARSCOV2, a virus that has so far not been convincingly proven to exist. The method of proving it, PCR, is scientifically meaningless.
A person who dies from stroke or organ failure may have "tested postive" for covid, but that's very far from conclusive that a new virus called SARSCOV2 is the cause of their deaths through pneumonia. And if it's not like flu or pneumonia, then it's not covid, by definition, since covid is (atypical) pneumonia.
Good info! Good point. Definitely could be just a typical thing elderly people experience. I know pneumonia really hits you when your older. Didnt know unidentifiable cause for pneumonia was considered covid. Interesting.
Like being forced to wear a mask while exercising or for long periods during the day?
Agreed. I worry what it's doing to my daughter all day.
Are there no studies out at this point testing what the longterm effects of mask wearing and high co2/low o2 do to a person?
Ah I see. That last part really stands out. Its made to be an inigma.
I certainly think something is going on. I wanted to believe the vax was spreading it, truly. But I cant help but aknowledged my experiences so I wanted to bring it up for discussion here.
Could 100% all be media hyping an already natural phenomenon. I can totally see that, like they did with swine flu. Compile those numbers with flu and pneumonia deaths and you have a "pandemic."
Also, I could imagine organ failure and strokes that arent "strokes" could be caused from lack of oxygen in the blood.
How do you know they died from or with Covid?
Thank you
Without a lab and some microbiology skills, I could never know for ceirtain lol.
However, they all had the same symptoms. Real difficulty breathing. Lost taste. Severely sick, for several weeks to sometimes a month+. Not just 1 or 2 weeks like a normal flu. And usually pneumonia has a cause doesnt it?
The organ failure and stroke got me thinking as well.
At first I kinda dismissed it. Then I saw my family go through it. Then I was like. Okay. Maybe there is something there? Take it for what you want tho!
So they died of an unknown condition. Am I reading your statement correctly?
At least 2 have died from unknown conditions, unattributed to anything else, while having COVID yes. You are.
How do you know they had Covid?
Also, its just different. From anything else Iv seen. I get the flu bad just about every other year actually. Well, I use to. I havent sense covid.
I think I had something... had the worst flu I ever had that year right before covid. Still wasnt as bad as everyone else.
So im very versed on flu unfortunatly lol.
Based on the symptoms and my experience from my family and a sickly friend that also had it. I completely ignore the PCR test. I dont even ask about it. Its a fake test.
So the symptoms talked to you and identified themselves as Covid?
I do not understand
Sure.
I observed the situation, used critical thinking and put 2 and 2 together.
People have explained what they went through or what they've seen. Iv seen people go through it myself. Im not saying its 100% without a doubt certain. Im saying Iv noticed a pattern. Its all anyone can do.
Im not going to ignore it because the popular consensus here is "its fake and gay." Im not going to refrain from discussin it because ill get downvoted and criticized to shit for saying anything.
All im doing is saying what I saw, heard and concluded on my own. Take it how you want. Feel free to criticize it. Thats the point.
It still doesn't mandate completely eviscerating and destroying human nature as a whole.
Agreed. Still think its grossly exaggerated. Theyve compiled flu and pnumonia deaths and rates onto it. This has been sense the start of the pandemic. 4, very elderly people. Only 2 I can say I know all the details for.
Some home. Some hospital. Info comes from two people. My elderly based neighbor has lost 3 friends. A good friend of mine lost an elderly uncle.
For certain 2 of her friends were not on ventilators. Never asked too much about the first death, kinda dismissed it, didn't want to be incentive. I think they were hospitalized.
Never asked about the uncle. Started asking questions after that.
I know they were all unvaxed. The 2 earlier ones were pre vax.
Its worth mentiong the lady in question offical cause of death was not COVID.
My neighbor believed it to be covid because she had it, and had it for so long, and so badly, that she stopped being able to walk. Then has a "stroke" at home, while still having symptoms. Honestly sounds like the vax clot shit.
The other two of her friends im almost certain neither were on ventalators. This is a lady that believes ventalators kill and belives in ivermectin. She would have blamed a ventalator. I dont have all the details of where they were, or what meds the doctors gave. I know the other was not on a ventalator, I asked. Assume they were not in hospital if that were ths case. But its only an assumption.
Im only certain of where this lady was and how she was treated. The more it happened the more questions I asked.
Take it for what its worth.
Yes. She had covid. She was sent home. She had it for over a month. Im sure she went to a hospital, but we live in a red state in a based area with doctors that actually allow theraputics and other alternitive treatments. (Not sure about ivermectin tho) Most people are sent home with nothing but a "suck it up." It actually pisses some people off around here lol.
She was also the youngest to die, late 60s, thin, and active. Thats the one that got me the most.
Dont believe me. It doesnt matter.
Edit: It could also have been something else. I am unqualified to say for sure. Just odd and wanted to discuss it.
Just keep in mind you're here talking to a crowd that, instead of following evidence to a conclusion, lands on a conclusion and makes up their mind first, then works backwards to make their conclusion fit reality. There is nothing you could ever say here to convince them that covid is real or dangerous. They made their mind up 2 years ago, evidence be damned. Also factor in that this is an anonymous forum where many outside actors pose as Americans and inject poisonous ideas and opinions into the American zeitgeist in an effort to have America tear itself apart and collapse. You won't find that conspiracy ever discussed here, and if it were brought up, it would be immediately downvoted to hell. We're in deep shit.
A shame they weren't treated. A round of HCQ+Zinc would have gotten them back on their feet.
We don't have a test for Covid
So they all died from the common cold. Good to know.