and the stars are likely all of the sleeping souls from history. every single one. all awaiting judgement. the bigger, brighter stars are likely the older ancients. all energy has to be stored somewhere, right? and this is also likely why the "universe" keeps "expanding", as more souls move from here to rest.
"And the LORD took him outside and said, "Now look to the heavens and count the stars, if you are able." Then He told him, "So shall your offspring be."
"He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names. Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite."
"Lift up your eyes on high: Who created all these? He leads forth the starry host by number; He calls each one by name. Because of His great power and mighty strength, not one of them is missing."
Sure, it is a interesting idea. Maybe you are on to something, I have not tried praying to God about it, what stars are, that is. So thanks for giving me these verses, and edifying my knowledge about stars.
revelation says everybody is going to be judged at the same time, even those in hell. so the people who have "passed on", their spirit has to be somewhere right? assumably they are just waiting dormantly. everything that I see leads me to believe that is what the stars are.
It would explain why Jesus is the morning star, and why the false Bibles gives that title to Lucifer, who wants to be like the most high. What do you make of shooting stars? Also wandering stars are very different from regular stars, that was my first thought about the matter. Another thing is that the stars was made on day 4, to give light upon earth (This has a spiritual meaning I am sure), while men was made on day 6. So was our spirit made on day 4?
If there is part of the Bible you reject, you are going to find yourself in trouble when facing God on judgement day, as not believing in the word is considered a act of rebellion against God. You can not pick and choose what part of the Bible you belive in. God describe earth as a footestoole. There is no private interpretations of prophecy in the Bible, everything needs to be proven by the holy Spirit.
Acts 7:49
Heauen is my throne, and earth is my footestoole: What house will ye build me, saith the Lord? Or what is the place of my rest?
The gospel is the good news, that God is not angry at us anymore, that God has forgiven our sin. Before you are given the holy Spirit, God will test your faith though, to see that you actually believe in the word of God, or if you are only paying lip service. I can not judge if someones faith is true our not, I leave that to God to decide, he is the one that knows our hearts. I do know the fruits that is coming out of peoples mouth, so a Christian should be able to see if the holy Spirit is working in someone or not.
We confess our sins. God forgives our sins through the blood of the perfect lamb. The blood of the new testament. By believing in the word that is Jesus Christ. So if there is part of the word that you reject, then you also reject the blood sacrifice made by Jesus. I can not stress this enough, earth is a footestoole.
that's exactly it, and again, I haven't rejected any of it. and earth is not literally a footstool. even in this 'flat earth' model, its not literally a footstool. look at the koreshan model.
Make an endless amount of claims and offer no evidence of the claims made, i.e. go to the "ice wall"
Then, dodge the question for evidence, i.e. going to thw "ice wall", by making another claim requiring evidence, i.e. "government won't let you go there"
Rattling off thousands of claims and providing no evidence for the gargantuan trail of claims results in people not taking you seriously.
If you try to go to Antarctica they will kill you. Look up famous explorer Jarle Andhoy and his Berserk trip, he tried, bless him.
If you want evidence then do your own research, do not expect others to do it for you. If you instead want to spend your time sticking your head into sand, you can do that, I am not denying that.
Jarle Andhøy was on an ATV heading toward the South Pole with another crewmate out of a five party crew aboard the Berserk. The emergency beacon on the Berserk was activated. Upon arrival, search and rescue crews found nobody aboard a lifeboat and all three were presumed dead. Summary of first expedition.
Summary of second expedition.
The second expedition failed because of customs and passport issues. Andhøy told Norweigen government of his plans, but did not gets certain permits. Norweigen government contacted New Zealand government and informed them. Andhøy did not dwclare his prior deportation from Canada and a search was started. Berserk 2 headed to Argentina, where more customs/border problems occurred.
Why do some flat earthers frollick along a trail of claims while providing no evidence for the list of claims dropped along the way and get mad at people who question their claims?
Why do some flat earthers not accept the reply of "do your own research" as a valid response, but will gladly use it as a way out of answering questions?
Because I have no idea what sort of evidence you want. You ask about a ice wall, I point you in the direction of Jarle Andhoy, and you dismiss it. That is how it is, no matter what evidence I would provided you would dismiss it, for one reason or another. Last time around, someone claimed there was no curvature for the first 15 miles of water and we still on a globe, like what do you want me to do about that, I know there is no curvature for the first 15 miles, nor the next 15 miles, or no matter how far you look. Get a something with a high zoom and you can see Chicago across the Great lakes 50 miles away on clear days, on standard globe math there should be over 400 meters of curvature, and the Chicago skyline is not that tall. Start recording the sun position on the sky at same time every day and you get the solar Analemma, then you can understand how the sun moves across the sky throughout the year, guess what, it spends more time in the northern hemisphere, then in the southern, that does not work on a globe, but is how we expect the sun to move on a flat earth, as the North is the centre. On the equator the sun always turns right, just like a clock would, no matter where you are, the sun always has a right turn to it. I can start posting more evidence though, for you, next thread Tuesday I think.
of course youtube doesn't censor bs
and the stars are likely all of the sleeping souls from history. every single one. all awaiting judgement. the bigger, brighter stars are likely the older ancients. all energy has to be stored somewhere, right? and this is also likely why the "universe" keeps "expanding", as more souls move from here to rest.
No.
scripture says God knows every one by name
Yes.
"And the LORD took him outside and said, "Now look to the heavens and count the stars, if you are able." Then He told him, "So shall your offspring be."
"He telleth the number of the stars; he calleth them all by their names. Great is our Lord, and of great power: his understanding is infinite."
"Lift up your eyes on high: Who created all these? He leads forth the starry host by number; He calls each one by name. Because of His great power and mighty strength, not one of them is missing."
Sure, it is a interesting idea. Maybe you are on to something, I have not tried praying to God about it, what stars are, that is. So thanks for giving me these verses, and edifying my knowledge about stars.
revelation says everybody is going to be judged at the same time, even those in hell. so the people who have "passed on", their spirit has to be somewhere right? assumably they are just waiting dormantly. everything that I see leads me to believe that is what the stars are.
It would explain why Jesus is the morning star, and why the false Bibles gives that title to Lucifer, who wants to be like the most high. What do you make of shooting stars? Also wandering stars are very different from regular stars, that was my first thought about the matter. Another thing is that the stars was made on day 4, to give light upon earth (This has a spiritual meaning I am sure), while men was made on day 6. So was our spirit made on day 4?
its round, and you're inside. when you look up to the sky, you're literally viewing the heavens. https://www.floridamemory.com/fpc/KOR/KOR0216.jpg
and the shape of it has no consequence to your salvation. quit wasting time.
If there is part of the Bible you reject, you are going to find yourself in trouble when facing God on judgement day, as not believing in the word is considered a act of rebellion against God. You can not pick and choose what part of the Bible you belive in. God describe earth as a footestoole. There is no private interpretations of prophecy in the Bible, everything needs to be proven by the holy Spirit.
Acts 7:49
Heauen is my throne, and earth is my footestoole: What house will ye build me, saith the Lord? Or what is the place of my rest?
I haven't contradicted scripture at all.
explain what the gospel is to me, that is the important part. tell me what the good news is.
The gospel is the good news, that God is not angry at us anymore, that God has forgiven our sin. Before you are given the holy Spirit, God will test your faith though, to see that you actually believe in the word of God, or if you are only paying lip service. I can not judge if someones faith is true our not, I leave that to God to decide, he is the one that knows our hearts. I do know the fruits that is coming out of peoples mouth, so a Christian should be able to see if the holy Spirit is working in someone or not.
what is it that you need to confess though? how did God forgive our sin?
We confess our sins. God forgives our sins through the blood of the perfect lamb. The blood of the new testament. By believing in the word that is Jesus Christ. So if there is part of the word that you reject, then you also reject the blood sacrifice made by Jesus. I can not stress this enough, earth is a footestoole.
that's exactly it, and again, I haven't rejected any of it. and earth is not literally a footstool. even in this 'flat earth' model, its not literally a footstool. look at the koreshan model.
when I say not literally a footstool, what I should probably say is that what we call footstools, are not literally footstools.
The main problem I have with flat earthers:
Make an endless amount of claims and offer no evidence of the claims made, i.e. go to the "ice wall"
Then, dodge the question for evidence, i.e. going to thw "ice wall", by making another claim requiring evidence, i.e. "government won't let you go there"
Rattling off thousands of claims and providing no evidence for the gargantuan trail of claims results in people not taking you seriously.
If you try to go to Antarctica they will kill you. Look up famous explorer Jarle Andhoy and his Berserk trip, he tried, bless him.
If you want evidence then do your own research, do not expect others to do it for you. If you instead want to spend your time sticking your head into sand, you can do that, I am not denying that.
Jarle Andhøy was on an ATV heading toward the South Pole with another crewmate out of a five party crew aboard the Berserk. The emergency beacon on the Berserk was activated. Upon arrival, search and rescue crews found nobody aboard a lifeboat and all three were presumed dead. Summary of first expedition.
Summary of second expedition. The second expedition failed because of customs and passport issues. Andhøy told Norweigen government of his plans, but did not gets certain permits. Norweigen government contacted New Zealand government and informed them. Andhøy did not dwclare his prior deportation from Canada and a search was started. Berserk 2 headed to Argentina, where more customs/border problems occurred.
Why do some flat earthers frollick along a trail of claims while providing no evidence for the list of claims dropped along the way and get mad at people who question their claims?
Why do some flat earthers not accept the reply of "do your own research" as a valid response, but will gladly use it as a way out of answering questions?
Because I have no idea what sort of evidence you want. You ask about a ice wall, I point you in the direction of Jarle Andhoy, and you dismiss it. That is how it is, no matter what evidence I would provided you would dismiss it, for one reason or another. Last time around, someone claimed there was no curvature for the first 15 miles of water and we still on a globe, like what do you want me to do about that, I know there is no curvature for the first 15 miles, nor the next 15 miles, or no matter how far you look. Get a something with a high zoom and you can see Chicago across the Great lakes 50 miles away on clear days, on standard globe math there should be over 400 meters of curvature, and the Chicago skyline is not that tall. Start recording the sun position on the sky at same time every day and you get the solar Analemma, then you can understand how the sun moves across the sky throughout the year, guess what, it spends more time in the northern hemisphere, then in the southern, that does not work on a globe, but is how we expect the sun to move on a flat earth, as the North is the centre. On the equator the sun always turns right, just like a clock would, no matter where you are, the sun always has a right turn to it. I can start posting more evidence though, for you, next thread Tuesday I think.