Who Are the Most Hesitant About Vaccination?
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I will say it would not surprise me if it turned out to be a hoax, and that the numbers of infections were infact due to vaccinations. In that case the statistics still could be true that the infection rates were highest in areas with lots of Trump supporters because some polls show that it is NOT trump supporters who are declining vaccination but is actually people who consider themselves independents, or apolitical (myself included in that group. That to me seems very plausible because in the past when it comes to vaccinating children it was statistically educated and somewhat well to do liberal women who did not want to vaccinate their children as opposed to republicans.
Here's an article about that: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/05/09/politics/vaccine-hesitant-analysis/index.html
I realize it's CNN but there is a link to the actual kaiser family poll that was not a cnn poll. The link is for a pdf download.
Seems like that pill could be accurate. I think most of the trump supporters at .win forums would not get vaccinated, but most trump supporters don't exactly share the views of the people in these forums, and Trump himself pushes the vax and urges his supporters to take the shots saying it has saved the world. So it could be that many of those regions where people are getting sick are trump regions, but they are actually due to the vax.
If you live in a rural area I would not expect your hospital to be packed due to low population density in rural areas.
However there is lots of evidence that the virus exists and I tend to think that it does. The virus has been isolated according to tons of data out there. They have sequenced its genetic material and even have actual pictures thanks to electron microscopy.
I do think that the test that they use have blown up the numbers with false positives and mis classifying the flu or cold as covid, but I tend to think they used a real virus, because: When people create things and have them at their disposal they tend to want to use them, and also because I believe they have an agenda and it might require a virus that potentially bad, but for all practical purposes was not that bad. Theren is a few reasons or possibilities that would be dependant on that for that. It could be how this virus will affect the vaccinated in the future, orbit could be how it affects the unvaccinated after a variant arises in the vaccinated population
The symptoms are similar to the flu, (but donate other coronaviruses like the cold, sars1, and mers), but different. The flu does not cause loss of taste or smell, and the flu effects children where as children do not get covid also the numbers and season of infection do not add up.
They create viruses like this all over the world. All the time. They have no reason NOT to use a real virus for their agenda.
But again, until I see how the agenda unfolds I am open minded about the possibility that it could be a total fake.
Do you think that SARS, and MERS were fake/did not exist and we're never isolated?
Where's your evidence that any "virus" has ever been isolated in a lab? The so-called genomes are all computer generated. (Illumina is such an interesting name.)
The genome for SarsCoV2 is based on 8 base pairs. The other 30,000 are from a computer model. This is not seen as a problem by people who also believe in global warming.
Here are 3 different instances and settings where it has been isolated
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7239045/?fbclid=IwAR04oK4vpxMHVBvWXNct0EapWvKnDwnW8RD0N8dKh1cZoQ3AvAJK8OG_UBI
https://journals.asm.org/doi/10.1128/jvi.00543-20?permanently=true&
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7036342/?fbclid=IwAR0Gz68OfzRz70LZ4ikAv9jOLgj2thjiKo-PMvWQoIzWJJLK2HCePL4maFQ
I'm curious what your basis of saying that it hasn't been isolated is?
Are you saying that because no one has gone to collect that cash from that person who offered a reward to anyone who isolated SARS2 via the koch postulate?koch's postulate is an outdated method of isolating BACTERIA.
You can't culture a virus on agar,not requires live cells.
Koch's postulate also requires that the microorganism in question be collected from a infected person, cultured on a medium and then used to reinfect another person to ensure the same symptoms manifest.
So there are some ethical, and legal problems with that approach. You might get arrested for murder or attempted murder if you were to purposely infect a person with the virus.
If you think the sequence is fake, why do you think it was made to look so funky and man-made?