This response is too much dancing around the subject. We can see too far. Give me undeniable proof and I will stop. "Ancient people's recognizing" and "personal experience having participated with peoples who have used balloons and rockets" also isn't saying anything really.
You can see too far. My experience the best time to see greater distances over water is right before a large thunderstorm, the "calm before the storm", I have seen this with my own optics. Theory being all the moisture normally lingering over the water is being vacuumed into the atmosphere. You can see further through air than water (flashlight under water vs. flashlight above water makes this obvious and self testable). Atmospheric lensing is the term, and it is not as prevalent at certain times. I have spent more time looking over the water than most people. Am going to start documenting this via a super zoom Nikon p1000 to show I am not LARPING over these observations. As someone who has seen this with their own eyes, I will spend more time investigating and showing the proofs. Pythagoras and Aristotle and Eresthosthenes "proving" is debunked with modern day observations. Light will naturally bend through a liquid medium this is proveable and measureable. You cannot prove that sun rays travel in a complete and straight path from the sun to earth, which these old time proved theories are based off of that assumption. The horizon line remains at eye level throughout any elevation, so indeed going in a balloon would be great to show you this, observing a level of atmospheric lensing is irrelevant and also means nothing.
some of these are grossly missing needed context and some may even be flat out wrong.
#15 is disputed.
This response is too much dancing around the subject. We can see too far. Give me undeniable proof and I will stop. "Ancient people's recognizing" and "personal experience having participated with peoples who have used balloons and rockets" also isn't saying anything really.
You can see too far. My experience the best time to see greater distances over water is right before a large thunderstorm, the "calm before the storm", I have seen this with my own optics. Theory being all the moisture normally lingering over the water is being vacuumed into the atmosphere. You can see further through air than water (flashlight under water vs. flashlight above water makes this obvious and self testable). Atmospheric lensing is the term, and it is not as prevalent at certain times. I have spent more time looking over the water than most people. Am going to start documenting this via a super zoom Nikon p1000 to show I am not LARPING over these observations. As someone who has seen this with their own eyes, I will spend more time investigating and showing the proofs. Pythagoras and Aristotle and Eresthosthenes "proving" is debunked with modern day observations. Light will naturally bend through a liquid medium this is proveable and measureable. You cannot prove that sun rays travel in a complete and straight path from the sun to earth, which these old time proved theories are based off of that assumption. The horizon line remains at eye level throughout any elevation, so indeed going in a balloon would be great to show you this, observing a level of atmospheric lensing is irrelevant and also means nothing.