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Flat earthers are a tool to discredit legitimate conspiracies....change my mind by answering one question:
posted 5 years ago by TenDaysDark 5 years ago by TenDaysDark +36 / -0

I just flew from the US to Japan without crossing Europe. If the earth isn’t round, Based on every model you have, How is that possible ?

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– TheChillConservative 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Thanks a lot for the response. I always think it's best to hear ALL arguments with a healthy dose of skepticism, even the ones you think to be factual. Had a high school teacher who preached "don't take my word for it, not your parents, not Fox News, not CNN... etc, read everything, do your own research, try to get as close to the SOURCE as possible, and make up you own mind.". Everyone needs their own assumptions and perspectives to be challenged and doing so in a constructive, open, and uncensored way is the only route to the truth.

So thanks for engaging. To be honest, all of that "evidence" I was pointing out here came from the movie Zeitgeist and the raw footage they included (the pictures of the beams cut, very shady "scripted" looking interviews, firefighters describing the "foundry" of molten steel, the basement workers describing the explosions far prior to the actual collapse).

Maybe you could rewatch that chapter of the movie if you wanted a refresher on what I'm referring to. In the meantime, I'll see if I could find any raw footage or images myself. The way the movie presented the "facts" left no doubt in my mind that this was not something that could be accomplished by a group of self-trained terrorists without a lot of inside (gov alphabet agencies) help. Too many "coincidences" and lack of transparency.

This is what the real people in charge do though, chum/muddy the waters and push and pull different narratives to the point that no one is ever able to distinguish fact from fiction. A very scary thought. That's why I think it's important to keep questioning everything and not be complacent in accepting anything as fact.

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– 45willwinagain 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

the issue i have with movies like zeitgeist and loose change is they start out trying to prove their point, and in the process they manipulate evidence with edits and narrative injection to build their case.

worst of all they intentionally ignore all the contrary evidence that doesn't fit their assumptions so you're left with only seeing what they want you to see, and only thinking about it the way they want you to.

there are many valid legit questions left unanswered about 9/11 but someone decided a long time ago that the best way to get people to stop asking those real questions is to throw them a bone to gnaw on to distract them.

"controlled demo" is a mcguffin. it's a red herring.

we should be asking why the government lied to us about shooting down the 4th plane... instead we spend all our time debating something that didn't happen which was designed to invalidate any discussions into the events of that day.

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